Bulking Diet To 250lbs

[Fred]

I need help with my diet puuuurlease. I estimate a 250lbs version of me to require 3750calories, so that is what im going to eat, every day until i hit 250lbs.

I'm useless at making my own diet plan and i always end up just eating what i want when i want, but generally 200g of protein, but more recently 300g.

Anyone know where I can fnid a decent bulking diet?? I need clean food and 300-400g of protien.

Money is not an option now I have a job so I can stuff myself with real food as well as whey.

:kinky: <- me whipping 250lbs :035:

[Fred]

I can eat:

oats
skimmed milk
whey
chicken breast
steaks
pork chops
wholemeal bread
cottage cheese
other stuff i cant think of

[bunnyluva]

what do you weigh now?

Phil

[Fred]

220-225

i want to eat clean to prevent/minimise any fat gain as i am already quite 'plump' :050:

[Fred]

also, i could do with a decent source of good fats as i probably dont eat enough of that? flax oil or somethnig?? but i also need amounts

i'd love a diet where i know i need to eat x of this and x of this

[666]

Just eat those things you suggested, plus jacket/boiled potatoes, tuna, lots of fruit and veg and you'll be there. If you stick to those foods (i.e. no rubbish, no beer) and lots of them, it doesn't have to be much more scientific than that.

[Fred]

hmm

well i do that approach usually and it works, but im ready to get a bit more dedicated and get everything in order...

[bunnyluva]

Why pick bodyweight as a goal? why not an extra 10kg on your squat and dead, plus 7.5kg on your bench.

Phil

[666]

Here's a website (http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/member/uk/trial.htm) that does the hard work for you - search it's database for the foods you eat and select the amount you ate then it gives you a protein / carbs / fats breakdown and total cals etc. You have to register for the free trial but it's quite useful.

[Fred]

Why pick bodyweight as a goal? why not an extra 10kg on your squat and dead, plus 7.5kg on your bench.

Phil

those are goals too, i just use my bodyweight (and bodyfat) as an indicator of my progress aswell

[Fred]

Here's a website (http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/member/uk/trial.htm) that does the hard work for you - search it's database for the foods you eat and select the amount you ate then it gives you a protein / carbs / fats breakdown and total cals etc. You have to register for the free trial but it's quite useful.

thanks mate, was kinda hoping someone could put one together for me but i guess im just being too lazy :p i'll put something together tomorrow and post it

[Knighty]

Hi mate - if you're really ready to step it up, I would suggest looking up 'Massive Eating' by John Berardi: http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/index.htm

Essentially, the principles are:

*Protein and Fat based meals (Including fruit or veg with each meal) around times you aren't training (low/no starchy carbs)

*Liquid carb and protein meals immediately before, during, and after training

*Hammer carbs and protein in 2 solid meals after training (No/low fat)


This kind of eating will make sure you can get 4000kcals of clean eating a day, no hassle at all!


Give us a shout if you need any help

[Icepick]

LOL

Originally posted by Freddy
[br]BORING

STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS IN DIFFERENT ROUND ABOUT WAYS

JUST GO TO YOUR FRIDGE/CUPBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fred]

LOL but he weighs 100lbs less than me

[Fred]

Hi mate - if you're really ready to step it up, I would suggest looking up 'Massive Eating' by John Berardi: http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/index.htm

Essentially, the principles are:

*Protein and Fat based meals (Including fruit or veg with each meal) around times you aren't training (low/no starchy carbs)

*Liquid carb and protein meals immediately before, during, and after training

*Hammer carbs and protein in 2 solid meals after training (No/low fat)


This kind of eating will make sure you can get 4000kcals of clean eating a day, no hassle at all!


Give us a shout if you need any help

thanks knighty, big les has also give me a plan on MT. I'll look at them both in depth and see what I think, maybe come up with something made up of the two. I'll post what I come up with.

Cheers.

[Fred]

this is what les came up with (with a few alterations)

Meal1
75g oatmeal
50g protein blend - this is the protein you get not the nett weight of the powder. Mixed with water !

1.5 hours later
50g protein blend shake (as before)

1 hour later
150g chicken breast
salad - with oil of choice 3 tablespoons.
75g brown rice (thats pre cooked weight) or cous cous (again pre cooked weight)

1 hour later
50g protein blend shake

1.5 hours later
150g cooked weight of chicken breast
with peppers, onion, mushrooms, asparagus, broccoli and carrot
75g basmati rice

1.5 hours later
50g protein shake

1 hour later
100g chicken breast or salmon/tuna steak/cod/bass
Mixed veg
75g rice or pasta

1.5 hours later
if pre workout - that is workout in the next 1.5 hours, 50g whey (what you get), 2 bananas, 25g oatmeal
or if not 50g protein shake

1 hour later
if pre workout have pre workout shake above
or, 8oz steak, 150g (raw weight) potatoes, vegtables = this is also your postworkout meal!
or take away meal with a 50g protein shake to wash it down

lastmeal of the day
oil of choice 3 tablespoons
25g protein shake


Postworkout: 50g whey (isolate preferably), 25g glucose or maltodextrin, creatine

If you get hungry between meals - eat a protein bar (homemade ones to bigfella's recipie are great for this and much cheaper than buying)
carry round 75g of whey powder mixed in 2ltr of water and sip this as well as your normal drinks through the day
you can also wash any meal down with 25-50g of protein powder mixed with water if you like
you can also have upto 50g oatmeal with any of the protein shakes - if you want to


ive started on this today but dont have EVERYTHING i need until tomorrow, and plus getting up at 1 didnt help either, but i am cramming the food in

[Knighty]

That's one mean schedule to follow!

Remember, it doesn't HAVE to be rigid, and try not to see it as too much of a heavy task.

Essentially it's just 6, clean, quality bodybuilding meals with a protein shake as a snack in between

Also there's no reason why you have to stick to the same foods every day - I find meals like 300g cottage cheese + fruit + nuts or oats MUCH easier to eat than brown rice, veg and meat as a mid morning meal

[Fred]

thanks matey, i dont intend to keep it set in stone

i will stick to it but if i fancy a change i will change some things around and just make sure the macronutrients (more or less) match up

im probably going to have cottage cheese tonight for last meal

[DMPM]

Eat more real food.

[Fred]

Eat more real food.

everyone always preaches this but i have found little scientific evidence to support it

btw, there is a hell of a lot of 'real food' in that diet

[DMPM]

everyone always preaches this but i have found little scientific evidence to support it
It's my personal experience.

[Icepick]

If I rememer correctly,that diet works outs to be something like 380protein/185carbs/85fat at around 3100 cals,those figures looks more like a sensible cutting diet,think you will need more carbs and cals if want to gain,but hey if thats works for you,then your metabolism must be on par with someone like rick walker

[Fred]

thats a different one mate, ive been convinced to bulk slowly and try to cut fat in the process, if i dont gain then i will increase cals 1-200 per week until i do

check my journal for the new one