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This is going to be my journal for the next 20 days, during which time I will have gained 20lbs of mass. I will then revert back to my original journal (Killing in the name of. vII).
I am going to put everything in this journal, from sleep time and quality, to ml of water consumed, to mood and health!
I did start thsi about a week ago, but undid all my good (and more) work several days into to project due to beer and not eating(literally) and not training. And a lot more beer. Now I am back at uni and so can't get leatherd each night, so I am starting again.
Day 1.
Weight @ 0600: 78kg - 171.6lb*
*I nearly choked to death on my own tonuge when I read that.
Sleep previous night: 6hrs 30mins - 7/10
Eats:
0600. x2 coffee. 500ml water. x2 meat sandwiches. Green shit.
0800. x2 pints milk + meat sandwiches. Greens.
1100. x2 egg sandwiches. 650ml water. More green shit.
1400. 100g mixed nuts and rasins. 1ltr water.
1500. Some leaves/shoots of various plants. Beech, lime, hawthorn and nettle amongst others. About 200g in all.
PreWO. 50g dextrose in 400ml water. Yuk.
*Train.*
PWO. 100g dextrose + 40g whey + vit C & others + 6g creatine + 500ml water. Yuk.
1900. 40g dextrose + 40g whey + 6g creatine + 500ml water.
2000. Huge roast dinner. Lots of meat and potatos and broccoli. 1ltr water.
2100. 100g mixed nuts and rasins. 500ml water.
2200. 400g cottage cheese.
A poor start to the challenge, but that was mainly down to yesterday night, and the preceeding week. Not too bad mind. Lots of good food in.
EDIT: The dextrose nearly made me puke. Also, whey in water has never been my strong point. I am off to sainsburys to get loads of Powerade and shit. I will have to drink that instead of (or add to) the dextrose. Its so sweet.
Training: [Everything on a 2" bar]
Bench - 50x3x10 70x6x3 50x3x10
Row - 50x2x20 70x2x8
Just getting back into it.
Hi Rob, hows your handmade-wooden-stuff-training-outside-getting-back-to-nature thing going?
Good luck in your 20lbs in 20 days march mate. Eat like a fat kid in candyland and youll get there.
Training is going well mate, thank you. Just getting back into it over these sessions. Really enjoying previously shunned exercises too. (Front squats and benching).
Day 2.
Weight @ 1400: 79kg - 173.8lb +1kg
Sleep previous night: 6hrs 10mins - 8/10
Eats:
1. Coffee x2. Coisant(sp?) & jam x4. Water.
2. Egg sandwiches & dandilion leaves & nettle leaves & milk.
3. Water.
4. Tuna sandwiches & lime/beech/hawthorn leaves/shoots & milk.
5. Powerade.
TRAIN.
6. Powerade & whey. Yuk.
7. Whey and milk. Yuk.
8. 200g mixed nuts and rasins. Water.
9. Steak & kidney pie. Water.
10. Curry & rice. Water.
11. Potato & 200g cottage cheese. Water.
12. Milk. Water.
Lots of good food and some less than usual veggies. I love spring as all the shoots and leaves from edible plants are coming through. Got some funny looks putting nettles and dandilion leaves in my sandwiches, and when I was eating leaves off the branch of a tree in the car, but its well worth it. Tons of minerals. I total that up to be about 4500kcals and at least 250g protien. A good days eats with everything at the right time.
Training: [Everything on a 2" bar]
Bench - 30x1x20 50x2x15 70x6x5 50x2x10
Row - 50x6x10
Training sucks a bit: Been told today by Dr's that I cannot squat/deadlift as I cannot risk too much IAP in the run up to my op. I am still benching. I am staying on help's bench routine but will add in another day of close grip on fridays at his suggestion. Also going to be rowing on separate days now. 6x5 is good progress though, 10x5 is not far now. Which means using 90kg is now on the horizon.
Mon & Wed: Bench
Tue & Thur: Row
Fri: Close grip
Love it, saying yuk to whey in milk as you munch nettles, nutter, are you benching with an arch? looks like you and i are in the same boat at the moment...
Nettles rule. Urtica just has to be rolled in the hands to remove the fine hairs that would otherwise sting your mouth. Hurts your hands, but it's only a few weeks of the year... and it doesn't half make you look hard.
No arch. No leg drive. No lat squeeze. No IAP. Just raw triceps and shoulder power. It's a case of lay back an push.
Also, all supps are offically gay. Whey stinks, makes you puke and tastes like crap. Creatine bloats me for hours. CLO makes me have fishy burps. Dextrose... we wont even go there.
After thsi 20 days is up its back to real food for me.
Helpful hint: If you are about to puke, eat chewing gum.
You're using the wrong whey, other than that agreed, also good benching then
Thanks, bud.
Some complications in my 20lbs in 20days plan:
1. Went for 2nd radiology scan/opinion.
2. It actually IS a hernia.
3. Don't need surgery for some gay reason.
4. Has to heal naturally. Is usually 6-18 months. The more I **** about with it, the longer it will take. Upper body stuff is fine and so is very light lowerbody/core stuff.
Don't worry though sports fans, it will still be done. I am however staying well away form lowerbody stuff for 2-3 months. Some light front squats and RDL's once per week is all I will be doing.
Thanks, bud.
Some complications in my 20lbs in 20days plan:
1. Went for 2nd radiology scan/opinion.
2. It actually IS a hernia.
3. Don't need surgery for some gay reason.
4. Has to heal naturally. Is usually 6-18 months. The more I **** about with it, the longer it will take. Upper body stuff is fine and so is very light lowerbody/core stuff.
Don't worry though sports fans, it will still be done. I am however staying well away form lowerbody stuff for 2-3 months. Some light front squats and RDL's once per week is all I will be doing.
When you say - it will still be done - do you mean, that regardless of what the doctor says your still going to have the op, or do you mean that youre going to do lower body exercises sfter 2-3 months.
It will be done:
-20lbs of mass in 20days.
-140kg bench by September, or I owe help £20.
-Some super-light squatting as and when.
BengDogg
20-04-2005, 18:18
Go for it Rob im with you!
-140kg bench by September, or I owe help £20.
You are gonna have some damn sore injection sites!
**** you Freddy. I am not using anything other than creatine to do this shit. I just don't need it.
BengDogg
20-04-2005, 18:43
hypothetical question, could roids fix a hernia quicker?
Will start a new thread if you dont want this here
Keep it here. I have come to the conclusion that no matter how often I change journals (NOT ROUTINES HATERS) they still invariably get beyond 10 pages very fast. I have some strange psychological adversion to long journals, but hey, who's counting (except me)? I am also stopping changing journals to defend myself against unfair and unjust statements about how often I change routines!!!1!11 Everyone thinks each new journal is a new routine. ****s. Thunder****s. All of you.
On topic: Yes mate, AAS will make me heal faster, like the Wolverine. I must say its very tempting. But no. I will stay natural as long as I can get away with it.
If nothing else. I admire your enthusiasm and optimism :038:
If you get that 140kg bench (raw) then i'll give you £20.
the block
20-04-2005, 23:55
quote = "Training: [Everything on a 2" bar]
Bench - 30x1x20 50x2x15 70x6x5 50x2x10
Row - 50x6x10"
i' m in thick mode. its night time and am tired, low on food. are you doing for e.g. 70kg for 6 reps for 5 sets?
also bench 140kg - its definitely do-able. your squat went up very fast in a fairly short period of time, hopefully you can do the same thing with the bench.
6x5 = 6 sets. 5 reps/set.
And thanks.
140kg bench by September, or I owe help £20.
Race ya. :)
Paused or touch'n'go?
Touch and go. Or a small pause. I ain't puasing for no 2 seconds.
Will post up diet later. But just to let you know. Its ALOT. Even by Freddy's standards. Aledgedly.
Man of Steel
21-04-2005, 13:52
What's helps bench routine like?
GoldenArrow
21-04-2005, 13:53
That was random ^^
Man of Steel
21-04-2005, 14:10
^^He says he's doing help's bench routine.
GoldenArrow
21-04-2005, 14:12
Ah yes. First page, I missed that.
Day 3.
Weight: 80kg - 176lbs. +2kg
Eats:
1. Coffee. Water.
2. Coffee. Sausage barm & waffles. Milk.
3. Milk.
4. Milk.
5. Chicken & bread. Milk.
6. Water & 10g creatine. Juice.
7. Fish & potato rosti. Milk. Water.
8. More fish & potato. Milk. Water.
9. 100g Mixed nuts & rasins. Whey in milk.
10. Water.
11. 200g cottage cheese. Water.
12. Milk.
Training:
Just a little biceps and calves. Stretch.
Helps bench routine is this:
Pick a weight.
Do 6x3.
then make that 9-10x3-5 over the coming weeks. then do one de-load/reps session. Then up the weight by 10-20kg and start again.
For me it went:
Get injured, wait two months.
-First session in 2 months: 70x5x2
-70x6x3
-70x10x3
-70x7x4
-70x10x4
Week off getting pissed.
-Then come back with: 70x6x3
-70x6x5
Tomorrow I hope for 70x8x5.
It is tweaked slightly now that I only do upper body shit.
DAY 3.
Weight: 81kg 178lbs +3kg
Weight is coming back nicely. At a rate of 2lbs a day so far. Keep this up and I could be 40lbs in 20 day!!!!!!!111!!1
Eats:
1. Coffee.
2. Coffee. 100g oats & 50g whey in 600ml milk. Water.
3. Powerade & Train.
4. Powerade & 17g creatine.
5. Salmon & potato. Water.
6. Coffee & half a mars bar.
7. 200g cottage cheese. Water.
7. Salmon & bread. Water.
8. Macoroni cheese & milk. Water.
9. 200g cottage cheese. Water.
10. Tuna sandwiches & milk.
11. Water.
12. Milk.
Training:
Bench - 30x1x20 50x1x15 70x6x5 70x1x4 70x1x3 70x1x5 70x1x7 50x3x12
You wanna know why, Freddy? It's 'cos I'm the ****ing shizzle, and your not. The only reason I got 2 sets with not 5 reps is becuase the first time my brother came scarily close to hitting me with the tractor mower (I benched in the garden today as its so nice) and the 2nd time I set up badly and got horrible lat pinch. Anyways, I got in a steaming bodybuilder killer rage on the last set and got those ****ing reps back! 70x10x5 is conquered. Next session is volume de-load, then its on with 80-90kg. Freddy, your getting owned, son.
Going to buy some chains. Not for accomodating resistance, but istead of 5kg plates. No where seems to sell 5kg plates that aren't stupid prices or have to have a minimum order of 4 or more (who the **** wants 4x5kg plates???!!!/1)
Anways, I am pumped up to ****. Back/calves/arms tomorrow.
Cool, still too weak to hold that shift key down though !!111!1!1
Good stuff, stop fvcking about with the bodybuildery shit at the end though volume addict, it's crap like that made you lose a zillion punds in 4 seconds
Ooooh yeah. Looks like daddy got his EAT back.
Good stuff, stop fvcking about with the bodybuildery shit at the end though volume addict, it's crap like that made you lose a zillion punds in 4 seconds
Painthriller on FI (and to an extent, Rouge) have massive benches and do shit loads of repping out after their heavy sets. Painthriller nearly ourbenches Rouge and is about 30kg BW lighter.
Yeah yeah yeah
1. Some guy eats poo and he's rich so that must be why and i'm going to do it too
2. you're not benching 200kg +
Yeah yeah yeah
1. Some guy eats poo and he's rich so that must be why and i'm going to do it too
2. you're not benching 200kg +
HAHAHAHA
GoldenArrow
23-04-2005, 14:34
You're not comparing a raw bench with a 2 ply shirted bench are you?
Doh. Even so, Anthony (PT) has RAW benched 405 and hit 11-12 reps with 320 and his BMI is prolly ahlf what Rouge's is.
bit of a difference between 400 and 500lbs though
GoldenArrow
23-04-2005, 15:26
I'd say his BMI'd be up there, he's not thin is he?
Not updated for a few days, been very very busy with uni work.
Also, skint. So no chains or new plates means have to stick with 70kg for a weeks or so. Hence yesterdays bench session:
Thick bar shit obviously:
Bench - 50x2x10 70x5x6 50x3x10
Row with 5 sec iso hold - 50x5x5 70x4x3 90x2x2
Weight: 190!!!!!!!!11111!!!!1
I got my EAT on.
uk machine
26-04-2005, 14:50
allright rob, training looks back on track. that bench youve made looks ****ing hardcore! and that thick bar is sweet.def gonna get one now in the summer.
everyone say hello to this dude, he is a guy off FI and he is ****ing sound.
also, thsanks.
BengDogg
26-04-2005, 18:44
Aye up ukmachine!
also, thanks for the bench complement. i don't want to end up some femminist pussy like pikeking or freddy so i thought i'd better go hardcore
PikeKing
26-04-2005, 18:50
you'll go hardcore when you can bench more than me junior
you'll be hardcore when you can squat more than 50kg again :016:
you'll be hardcore when you can squat more than 50kg again :016:
can it. i could CG 85kg with one arm stuck up my arse
deit today
sausage sandwiches
water
tuna sandwiches
leaves and shoots
nuts
curry and rice
bread
half a mars bar
17 pints of milk
can it. i could CG 85kg with one arm stuck up my arse
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
only 4 months to get that 140 rob
ummm yeah. thats like 10kg a month, big whooo. its not like i am going to shit my pants and cry cos the heat is up.
17 pints of milk your piss must be snow white!
you'll get super strong bones :)
BengDogg
26-04-2005, 19:39
17 pints of milk!!! Skimmed? I have about 5 - 6 a day on average so that is 2 1/2 days milk for me.
BengDogg
26-04-2005, 19:47
thats what i thought :) Full fat then or just creame :D
17 pints of milk!!! Skimmed?
skimmed my ass
ASS MILK ? Wo. Rob theres hardcore then theres hardcore mate. Thats the wrong kind ;)
the block
26-04-2005, 23:53
17 pints?!!! flippin heck mate - you get milk vouchers or something? or you bought a cow?
thick bar obviously
bench - 50x2x10 70x5x6 50x1x17 50x1x14
5sec iso hold row - 50x2x10 70x2x10 50x2x10
good session. could of got 7-8reps on last 2 heavy sets of bench but stuck to routine and saved my energy for friday. i hope to get 3x8 as a minimum. maybe 5x8. deffo want ot have benched 70x5x8 by next friday, we will see what happens.
eats today have been huge, load sof milk again you knows it
well my scales tell me i am 191.4lb
that makes the 20lb challenge complete in 8 days IIRC. i feel huge and look great. gotta love that glycogen supercompensation. in your face mark
BengDogg
27-04-2005, 19:49
you da man! 20lbs up!! Glad you made it
uk machine
28-04-2005, 00:41
all right lads. thanks for the welcome,ill prob go and do it proper and say hello in the new members section.rob all that milk drinking is sick!!lol.
ice_mach
28-04-2005, 15:05
well my scales tell me i am 191.4lb
that makes the 20lb challenge complete in 8 days IIRC. i feel huge and look great. gotta love that glycogen supercompensation. in your face mark
seems interesting dude, whats the thinking behing glyocen supercompensation bro?And how u goin bout it?
Why are you putting an iso in your rows?
1. i am the daddy and anythign i do is the new thing
2. they are a tool for ridding ym bad "gorilla shoudlers" posture
3. they have the spin off of more TUL
glycogen supercompensation is essentially depleting your supplies, then eating lots. a bit like carbo-loading. only better as you make use of hormonal intervention too (insulin).
ice_mach
28-04-2005, 18:37
cheers for the explanation, dude. you seemed to have gained alot of the knowledge since the days of MT mate.
ha1
what ou tryin to say mofo? :014:
lol
yeah, its the atmosphere here.we are a more tight knit community than the wasters and pussies on Mt.
stick aroundand GFH
ice_mach
28-04-2005, 18:45
HAHA! Yeh people here are much more knowlegeable than the majority on MT stuck on their "more than once a week is overtraining mentalities", lol, at GFH, might have to adopt your 17 pints of milk habit :119:
it was 21 pints by the days end
OMFAGOMGOMG!!!11!!!!
i am a god.
all thick bar:
bench -
30x10
50x2x10
70x10(PR)
80x6(PR)
70x2x8
70x2x6
70x5
50x3x10
row-
50x2x20
5 sec iso hold row-
70x3x5
and some pics for your s:
1 of my 80kg improvisation
1 of me
the pics
one is a bit funny, it comes out ed on my screen.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robmoatesv2/album?.dir=/1b25&.src=ph
NARCISSUS, WHO YOU CALLIN A BITCH?
Take those fvcking sunglasses off you queen, and the bitch shorts
Nice benching !!!
And caveman training ~~~~
Your wooden bench looks wicked! Whats in the buckets?
for all you high 5'ers out there, there is 5ltrs of watre in each bucket.
Your wooden bench looks wicked! Whats in the buckets?
5ltrs of water in each bucket making 10kg + 60kg of plates + 10kg thick bar
my wooden bench is the uber
That pic of your bench reminds me of unbreakable when bruce willis is benching apart from yours only has 80kg on
i cant sya the words **** or **** so it came out like that.
im not taking the piss out of your bench press but there was about 300kg
in the film
Rob, I can't see your uber bench (work has Yahoo Photos blocked). Please attach some pics in here.
Thanks. :)
Nice one bud...looks hardcore!
ok mate, just give me 4 decades to work it out.
80kg bench
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robmoatesv2/detail?.dir=1b25&.dnm=c1b8.jpg&.src=ph
194lbs:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robmoatesv2/detail?.dir=1b25&.dnm=ed4c.jpg&.src=ph
Ummm. Is that it?
I need you to attach them to this site mate. Yahoo is no-go for me.
i ahve no idea how to do it, that was my best guess
GoldenArrow
29-04-2005, 14:38
Yup
Yup
Nice one.
That bench is possibly the most awesome thing I've ever seen. :023:
You look big too mate.
Nice one.
That bench is possibly the most awesome thing I've ever seen. :023:
You look big too mate.
thanks joel
thats quite a compliment coming formt he guy that made a freakin airbus
BengDogg
29-04-2005, 16:38
looking damn good Rob!
looking damn good Rob!
high 5
Looking good in the pic! Well done! :038:
Looking excellent considering all the milk you've drunk. I was half expecting you to have a beer/milk gut.
PikeKing
29-04-2005, 18:52
get your shoulders down and back monkey man!
fcuking hell with your swede bowled you look bang on like my mate Paul !
But with posture almost as bad as mine ! :029:
BengDogg
29-04-2005, 19:56
Posture looks fine................
If you live in Twycross Zoo :D
Joke, i can't see a problem. im not that clued up on these things though
BTW i meant to say fcuking well done on the gains...thats quality, quality progress mate, and obviously brought about by hard work in the kitchen and in the library. Fair play. :045:
Looking very good considering you've had time out, chest looks solid! love the bench too.
PikeKing
30-04-2005, 00:11
if we ever have a meet I will tape Rob into the correct position and give him a few postural exercises that'll cripple him
lookin buff though baldy, wheres the fur?
Looking good in the pic! Well done! :038:
thanks dude
Looking excellent considering all the milk you've drunk. I was half expecting you to have a beer/milk gut.
cheers mate
get your shoulders down and back monkey man!
kiss my candy ass you little twerp
fcuking hell with your swede bowled you look bang on like my mate Paul !
But with posture almost as bad as mine ! :029:
my posture rocks, if your a mountain gorilla, which i am
BTW i meant to say fcuking well done on the gains...thats quality, quality progress mate, and obviously brought about by hard work in the kitchen and in the library. Fair play. :045:
thankyou benny boy
Good stuff!
yup, you better watch out fatty, i'm coming
Looking very good considering you've had time out, chest looks solid! love the bench too.
thanks decaking
if we ever have a meet I will tape Rob into the correct position and give him a few postural exercises that'll cripple him
lookin buff though baldy, wheres the fur?
awol, kylie shaved me in my sleep :(
bit of light shit today
curls, claves and some gripper nonsense
eat lots
RERAD THIS
http://iron-city.net/showthread.php?t=850
the block
30-04-2005, 16:58
cool pics. bench looks solid though hardly the sort of bench you would want to sleep on!
you look great. decent midsection too which is a right pain in the arse to hold onto. good stuff.
cool pics. bench looks solid though hardly the sort of bench you would want to sleep on!
you look great. decent midsection too which is a right pain in the arse to hold onto. good stuff.
thanks mate
bench -
50x10
70x6
90xF
90xF
Grrrr
90x2
50+band (80 at top)x5x2 then again for 6x3
rows-
70x3x15
first de session:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robmoatesv2/album?.dir=/e616
i am such a PL'er.
eats:
coffee
milk
3ltrs powerade
curry
milk
chocolate
water
milk
juice
curry
shepeards pie
24 jaffa cakes
ice_mach
01-05-2005, 16:07
nice diet bro, by the way have you trained with jumpstretch or woody bands before, and do that rope feel anything like them?
could you lock this please dudes. its run its course, it was onyl for the mega-bulk-a-thon
cheers
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