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moulesfrites

11-04-2005, 10:02

I’m only thirteen. I weigh 47kg ish and I think that I’m 5 2’’... ish. Anyway, I’m completely new to training. My target is to beat every person in my year at arm wrestling!... or to at least have stronger arms.

But at the moment I’m still doing a basic general workout to condition myself. I hate school p.e. but this training is pretty good and the results will be better than the results of doing school crap.

Sun 03.04.05

Squat- technique work, 3x1x20
Thick bar OH press- technique work, 3x10 5x10 5x12.5 2x5x15
Assisted chins 2x5
and some half chins attempts
Hanging knee raises 3x5

Squatting was excellent. My favourite of the day. Felt heavy though.
In OH press, must keep barbell closer to self.
Chins are nightmare. Can barely do half of one.
Stop swinging in the hanging knee raises!!!

moulesfrites

11-04-2005, 10:03

Wed 06.04.05

Squat- 3x3x20
Thick bar OH press 5x10 2x5x15 1x17.5 4x15

Felt weak today. OH press particularly hard. My training partner hungry, tired and wanted to watch desperate housewives (not KMP- it was the lazy sister). This was probably because it was late.

moulesfrites

11-04-2005, 10:04

Fri 08.04.05

Squat 2x5x20 5x25
Thick bar OH press 5x10 5x15 3x17.5 5x15
A. chins 2x5
and some half attempts
Standing crunches with monster mini band 3x5

Very happy with squatting today. Felt that I have progressed.Though I need to tighten my back more.
Also feel more confident with the OH press.
Chins are hard but also extremely funny when you can’t do them.
Monster crunches were do-able.

moulesfrites

11-04-2005, 10:05

Sun 10.4.05

Squat 5x20 5x25 5x27.5 5x30 5x32.5 1x32.5
Thick bar OH press 5x10 5x15 5x17.5
Thick bar bent rows 3x5x10 5x12.5
Standing crunches 3x6 1x5

Squats got very heavy therefore it was hard to focus on my targets (arch back,don’t lean so far forward).
OH press felt very heavy but was do-able.
Rows and crunches were ok but I need to grab on tighter to the monster mini band.

Rogue_zero

11-04-2005, 10:21

my advice to you is dont rush. Your at the young end of the scale to start lifting. Work on your technique and the weight will come. As your young ensure you remain supple and dont lose flexability. Are you training alone or with someone experienced in the sort of training your doing?

Arm wrestling is a techique as much as strength.

Good luch to you with your training.

kinkymisspinky

11-04-2005, 10:27

She is training with Scourge and myself. Her squat technique is surprisingly very good for a beginner... embarressingly, its much better than either of our's.

Atm I am looking for someone to coach her in armwrestling technique.

Rogue_zero

11-04-2005, 10:30

then she has good teachers!

Scourge

11-04-2005, 10:36

She is training with Scourge and myself. Her squat technique is surprisingly very good for a beginner... embarressingly, its much better than either of our's.

Yup. Her squat form is a thing of beauty at lower weights, but degenerates quite quickly as the weight goes up. Strength-wise she's capable of a lot more right now.

Rogue_zero

11-04-2005, 10:41

sounds like a champ in the making!

Scourge

11-04-2005, 10:52

sounds like a champ in the making!
Here's hoping, although the fact that she's actually doing some proper training so young is a big advantage in itself.

Most girls are unlikely to start resistance training until they're 18 at least and they will invariably start off doing feckless nonsense with chrome-plated baby weights. If she keeps it up, by the time she's 18 she'll have over four years heavy-weights training experience behind her.

Hworh!

Rogue_zero

11-04-2005, 11:01

good to see. Good luck to her, and yourselves!

Robert

11-04-2005, 11:24

Pinky's sister?

Tricky

11-04-2005, 14:07

Hey fair play to you moulesfrites....i reckon my g/f wishes she'd started resistance training at 13. Go for it ! :038:

kinkymisspinky

11-04-2005, 14:14

Pinky's sister?

Yep. Once we get the other three lazy feckers into training and enter comps we will dominate the lightweight women's classes. Hehehe.

Robert

11-04-2005, 14:27

Good for you lass. Hows your trainining coming on? last I heard you had some club foot or something.

EDIT: Maybe I didn't remember that quite right.

Knighty

11-04-2005, 15:04

Great stuff - you're so lucky you're starting off on the right foot with 2 people who know what they are doing

I wish I had the same luxury when I first started out!

Keep it up :038:

kinkymisspinky

11-04-2005, 22:49

Good for you lass. Hows your trainining coming on? last I heard you had some club foot or something.

EDIT: Maybe I didn't remember that quite right.

Rob, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I've never had club foot.

Training is okay. I am getting back into it now that we have the home gym but my back is still giving me some trouble so I have to be very careful. I'm not sure my £95 per hour back guy did that much for me...

kinkymisspinky

11-04-2005, 23:01

I won't be around tomorrow when you come over to train but I'm sure Ian will look after you. (Just make sure he makes you a milkshake afterwards - I know that's your real motivation for coming here :048: )

Remember to keep your body as upright as possible whilst squatting. If you lean forward you're going to find it difficult to get deep enough. Stay focussed on maintaining good form.

I'm expecting a good report when I get back... 3x35kg squat and at least a single at 20kg for OH press.

Robert

12-04-2005, 12:15

Rob, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I've never had club foot.

Training is okay. I am getting back into it now that we have the home gym but my back is still giving me some trouble so I have to be very careful. I'm not sure my £95 per hour back guy did that much for me...
I could of sworn you had problems with your feet, and club foot is the only thing that sprung to mind. Doh.

Its good your back in training.

BengDogg

12-04-2005, 15:48

I won't be around tomorrow when you come over to train but I'm sure Ian will look after you.

Mwuhahahaaaaaaaaa!

moulesfrites

12-04-2005, 19:26

Tue 12.04.05

Squat 5x20 5x22.5 5x25 5x27.5
Thick bar OH press 5x10 5x15 2x5x17.5
OH press parials 2x5x17.5
Land mine 2x5x10 5x12.5 5x15

The weight felt a lot easier to lift but I felt that my technique wasn't up to scratch- I felt a bit wobbly today; I am not an evening person.
I felt that the technique of my OH press has improved but the weight felt heavy.
OH press partials were ok. They were better than the usual OH press.
Landmines were good too. It was a nice new exercise which was challenging but enjoyable.

Also thank you for your comments and suggestions!

kinkymisspinky

12-04-2005, 21:31

I could of sworn you had problems with your feet, and club foot is the only thing that sprung to mind. Doh.

Its good your back in training.

I have back problems, not feet problems.

kinkymisspinky

12-04-2005, 21:38

The weight felt a lot easier to lift but I felt that my technique wasn't up to scratch- I felt a bit wobbly today; I am not an evening person.
I felt that the technique of my OH press has improved but the weight felt heavy.
OH press partials were ok. They were better than the usual OH press.
Landmines were good too. It was a nice new exercise which was challenging but enjoyable.

Also thank you for your comments and suggestions!

What time did you train? 5pm-ish? Did you have a small snack after school? I find it difficult to train if I haven't eaten for awhile - small portion of porridge and a banana would've been a good snack.

What was wrong with your squat technique? Leaning forward? Knees coming in?

Hopefully this light session will allow you lots of time to recover properly before Sunday.

moulesfrites

15-04-2005, 20:50

What time did you train? 5pm-ish? Did you have a small snack after school? I find it difficult to train if I haven't eaten for awhile - small portion of porridge and a banana would've been a good snack.

What was wrong with your squat technique? Leaning forward? Knees coming in?

Hopefully this light session will allow you lots of time to recover properly before Sunday.

Yeah, trained at 5:30ish. I did eat but I don't remember what I ate now. I was just wobbly and kept picking up the ber wonky too. Aren't you busy with your boy on sunday? Anyway, hope the rabbits ok?

kinkymisspinky

15-04-2005, 21:04

Yeah, trained at 5:30ish. I did eat but I don't remember what I ate now. I was just wobbly and kept picking up the ber wonky too. Aren't you busy with your boy on sunday? Anyway, hope the rabbits ok?

Are you checking your hand spacing on the bar? Are you keeping you shoulder blades squeezed and a tight hold on the bar?

I am busy with the boy but if you just come over, train, shake and leave it will take about 90mins so will be fine. Possibly train tomorrow if you're not sore from climbing.

Rabbit is fine. She seems quite reclusive though, maybe tired from all the playing earlier.

moulesfrites

17-04-2005, 14:47

Sun 17.04.05

Squat 5x20 5x25 5x30 5x32.5 5x35
OH press 5x10 5x15 5x17.5 1x20
Thick bar cheat curl 5x10 2x5x15 5x17.5
Standing crunches 4x5

My form felt better on all exercises but still felt a bit wobbly on squat. Oh pressed the thin bar for a single. Cheat curls good but need to cheat a bit more. Need to slow down the standing crunches.

moulesfrites

21-04-2005, 18:45

Thurs 21.04.05

Squat- technique work 5x5x20
Thick bar OH press 5x10 3x15 3x5x17.5
Rows 2x5x10 5x15 6x17.5 5x20
Weighted sit-ups 5xBW 5x2.5 2x5x5
For squat the weights definetly feel easier to lift but I have to make sure that my feet are even! Tear the ground! Push legs out! Don’t stand like a penguin!
OH press felt much better overall but still need to keep the bar closer.
Stop trying to stand up when rowing and keep elbows together!
Sit ups good but concentrate.

kinkymisspinky

22-04-2005, 00:03

The weights on squats felt easier because they were! They were looking really good. Just remember the technique when you use higher weights. You'll have a new 5 rep max on Sunday.

When your form is good the bar just flies up and down on OH press. Remember to keep the bar above you instead of trying to press it in front of you.

Overall you're doing really well. You'll be beating everyone to the ground in no time :045:

Robert

22-04-2005, 00:09

Like the training. Its very 'Ian'. Could do with mroe volume though.

moulesfrites

22-04-2005, 09:20

Could do with mroe volume though.
What do you mean more volume? Sorry, I'm only new to all this stuff. :039:

Robert

22-04-2005, 10:24

Hi mate.

Volume generaly describes how many kg you have lifted in any one session. I notice your sessions are not particularly high frequency and so you could get away with higher volume. More kg lifted = more adaptation (sweeping statement, but generally true).

Obviously there are many ways to increase session volume, the most suitable for someone in your situation I would wager would be to increase the amount of work done @ 70% and over. This can be acheived usually by using smaller increments to reach your working weight (in your case 5RM). However, as your starting out and not lifting all that much (really, no offence there, your doing great) it woudl be difficult to implement. My suggestion would therefore be to do 2 sets with each weight, or once you reach your 5RM, back off a bit and do some triples with that, 3-5 is plenty for now.

Its best to start gradually incresing the volume fo your workouts form an early point in your lifting career.

Robert

22-04-2005, 10:31

So I would of structured your next session more like this:

Squat- 8 sets working up to 5RM
Squat - 3-5 sets @ 80%* 5RM, triples

Same goes for your other exercises.

*=**** 80%, just make it heavy.

So your squat session might go:

2x5x10 2x5x15 2x5x20 2x5x25 5x30 5x35 5x5RM

Or

2x5x10 2x5x20 5x30 5x35 5x5RM 3x30 3x30 3x30 3x30

Up to you really.

GoldenArrow

22-04-2005, 15:56

What do you mean more volume? Sorry, I'm only new to all this stuff. :039:

Turn your stereo up.

kinkymisspinky

23-04-2005, 08:44

Re. volume...

Sessions are infrequent because neither Ian and I or moulefrites have much free time that overlaps, also try to space it out with PE at school. Work done per session depends on many factors - last session was after school so I took into account her not eating a proper meal before training, having PE that day and the next and that she trains better earlier in the day. Was intending to use more weight in the squat but saw that she was a bit wobbly and tried to correct form.

She's only a 13 year old girl with no previous training experience. I'm not using it as an excuse, but most 13 year old girls are not into lifting weights or doing much physical activity in general. At the moment we are working on building interest and confidence and improving technique. Just had a look through her journal and she's done seven training sessions in her life. Slowly, slowly, we're in no rush to get anywhere.

Robert

23-04-2005, 10:45

Ha!

Kinky, this wasn't a personal atack on your coaching skills. Just a small observation. Also, are you (I realise you cannot be there to hold her hand) placing lots of emphasis on the importance of correct nutrition pre and post WO? A good PWO drink can mean you have plenty of reserves for next time (provided you don't go into starvation in the meantime) and a good pre WO drink will ensure you can do nas much volume as you like..

kinkymisspinky

23-04-2005, 23:56

I didn't take it as an attack, Rob. Though I don't see why someone with seven sessions training experience needs to be hitting 5RM and doing 3-5 sets at 80% every session as you suggested.

I make a point to stress the importance of good nutrition and make sure she's eaten before and give her a shake and a whole food meal after.

moulesfrites

25-04-2005, 19:04

Thurs 21.04.05

Squat 5x20 5x27.5 5x32.5 5x35 5x37.5 5x35
OH press 5x10 5x15 5x17.5 5x15
Cheat curls 5x10 5x15 2x5x17.5
Standing crunches 2x5xmini band 2x5xlight

Squat was ok. Still have to make sure my knees don't knock inwards. But obviously the heavier it got the harder it was... oww...
OH press was still hard and heavy but felt that form was better.
Cheat curls didn't feel as good as last time. Must straighten legs on way up.
Crunches ok.
Overall didn't feel the best but will do better next time.

Rogue_zero

25-04-2005, 19:05

thats some nice progress. Keep it up

kinkymisspinky

25-04-2005, 22:56

Don't worry about it. You didn't have a particularly great session but it wasn't particularly bad and you hit a new weight in the squat.

Ian is considering dropping your squats to 3 rep sets because your form is always very good on the first three but you lose it on the fourth when you're squatting heavy. He thinks doing less reps will reinforce good habits.

You were having trouble with cheat curls because you can't seem to drive with your legs and thrust your hips forward as one movement. Also, you've got to remember that its a fast lift, not a slow and controlled one. You'll get it with practice, don't worry.

You're doing great. You've nearly doubled your squat weight in about eight sessions! :038:

Scourge

26-04-2005, 16:33

Squat was ok. Still have to make sure my knees don't knock inwards. But obviously the heavier it got the harder it was... oww...

The only problem you've got at the moment is your technique, which will improve quickly enough. It'll also get a lot better as you learn how to focus more during your workouts.

Your squatting looks easy and you have a lot of speed coming off the bottom of the lift, even when you're technique goes wobbly, so I reckon you're lifting well under your strength potential as present. You'll bury 60kg once your technique falls into place.

thats some nice progress. Keep it up.

Yeah... Wouldn't it be good if we could all make progress like we did when we first started?

moulesfrites

27-04-2005, 20:43

wed 27.04.05
Squat (high bar) 5x20 3x25 3x30 3x35, (low bar) 1x37.5 2x37.5 3x3x35
OH press 3x10 3x12.5 3x15 3x17.5 3x3x20
Rows 2x5x10 3x15 3x20 3x25
Sit-ups 5xbw 5x5 2x5 3xbw 5x2.5

squat quite good but heels keep coming off floor. need to go a bit deeper too.
OH press good but need to stop pushing bar forward.
Rows ok. Need to stop bending my wrists over.
Sit ups good; what a laugh!

BengDogg

27-04-2005, 21:14

Showing progress moules, you have got 2 very good teachers so you will progress at an amazing pace!

kinkymisspinky

28-04-2005, 12:38

You missed out one set of squats - you did 1x37.5 then 2x37.5 then we got you to do another 3x37.5 which you got quite easily. The last set at 35kg was high bar.

You certainly are looking strong in the squat but for some reason, you keep coming up onto your toes. We were experimenting with the bar position to try and work out what’s happening but at the moment neither of us are sure. Your depth isn’t much of a problem, you’re below parallel most of the time.

I think you push the bar in front of you because you’re afraid of hitting your face with it. You only need to worry about this if you have a big chin and nose like Ian. The last set, when I told you to just skim your nose with the bar, was the best and looked easiest.

Your wrists were bending over because your hands were getting tired holding onto the thick bar. Maybe we will have you rowing the skinny one next time.

Sit ups would be less funny if you stopped farting all over the place.

Fred

28-04-2005, 12:54

Sit ups would be less funny if you stopped farting all over the place.

LMAO

Robert

28-04-2005, 13:04

moulesfrites

01-05-2005, 17:38

Sunday 01/05

Squat 4x3x20 3x25 2x3x30 3x35
Walkouts 1x40 2x1x45 1x47.5 1x50
OH Press 3x10 3x15 2x3x20 3x22.5
Curls 3x10 4x15 2x3x17.5
Standing Crunches 2x5xm. mini 2x5xlight

Need to keep left heel on floor while squatting. Suspect this caused by left knee wandering in coming off the bottom of the lift.

Walkouts were heavy.

OH press technique still dodgy - Need to keep bar closer to self. Weight OK but wobbly.

Everything else OK.

moulesfrites

02-05-2005, 19:11

mon 02.05.05

5xcrap grippers
5x1xguide
2x1xsport negative

Started grip training. Grip not too great but will work on it!
Quite good at isometric.

JumboTron9million

02-05-2005, 19:19

Stretch his calves before he squats, and have him bring his toes up into his shoe as he squats.

jbt

Scourge

02-05-2005, 21:21

[H]ave him bring his toes up into his shoe as he squats.

jbt
You mean curling her toes upwards?

Robert

02-05-2005, 23:23

why walkouts? and what is the thinking behind the way you structure her core work?

JumboTron9million

03-05-2005, 06:54

Yes. Just a little :)

Try and squat on the balls of your feet wih your toes up - see what happens. You will be rocked back onto your heels / midfoot as you descend.

JBT.

Scourge

03-05-2005, 09:14

Yes. Just a little :)

Try and squat on the balls of your feet wih your toes up - see what happens. You will be rocked back onto your heels / midfoot as you descend.

Thanks... Will see if that works.

Scourge

03-05-2005, 09:42

why walkouts? and what is the thinking behind the way you structure her core work?
Her squat form has started playing up a little recently, so we've been keep the squat weights light for the last couple of sessions to work out what the problem is. The walkouts were simply to let her get a feel for some heavier weights, as she's been squatting light.

Core work - Three good weighted exercises (standing crunches, weighted sit-ups, landmines) and rotate between them. Nothing too complex.

moulesfrites

04-05-2005, 16:42

Wed 04.05.05

Squat 5x20 2x3x25 3x30 3x35 3x37.5 3x40 3x42.5
OH press 4x10 3x15 3x3x20
Rows (thick bar) 3x10 3x15 3x20 (oly bar) 3x20
Landmines 5x10 5x12.5 2x5x15

Feet are better for squats. Need to always remember to put pressure on heels. Knees not knocking around so much but can feel them wobbling a little.
Getting there slowly on ohp.
Wrists began curling over on rows on the 20.
Landmines heavy but good.

Scourge

05-05-2005, 09:20

Nicely done. Bodyweight squats soon, then onwards to 60kg...

kinkymisspinky

05-05-2005, 10:59

The 42.5 looked easy too. She'll have 50kg+ by her birthday.

Rogue_zero

05-05-2005, 11:03

excellent stuff!

moulesfrites

08-05-2005, 18:14

Sun 08.05.05

Squat 5x20 3x27.5 3x32.5 1.37.5 1x40 2x3x42.5 3x45 3x40 2x3x30
OH press 3x10 3x15 3x3x20
Rows 3x10
Knee raises 3x5And some assorted chin nonsense... part of the fun of lifting.... he he...

New squat pb. Bar slipped on back once. knees wobbly.
Keep it going stright over my head! Don’t push it forward.
Rest is cool.

uk machine

08-05-2005, 18:47

strong stuff young 'un

moulesfrites

11-05-2005, 19:35

Wed 11.05.05

Squat 2x5x20 6x25 4x3x30
Walkouts 1x40 1x45 1x50 1x52.5
OH press, 2 second pause 3x10 4x3x15

Nice light session today. Overall technique feels better. Knees are slightly wobbly in squat but they’re getting there. Walkouts were heavy but OHP good. Bar coming forward slightly.

JumboTron9million

12-05-2005, 15:14

Scourge

12-05-2005, 15:40

Stabilsie your knees by pushing the floor apart (think of spreading the floor out to the sides with your feet as if trying to open a crack in the floor and push it apart). When you push your butt back and begin the descent think about pushing your knees "out" to keep them over your feet or opening up your groin.

Strengthen your glutes also, this will help.

Had her trying to 'tear the floor', but she has difficulty focusing on too many technique pointers at once 'cos her technique is so 'fluid'. It'll be easier to get her to use it with more squatting practice.

I reckon, as you appear to as well, that the main cause of her knees dipping inwards on the ascent is a comparitive weakness in her glutes. I've not wanted to give her assistance exercises specifically to rectify that weakness just yet given her current training experience and the amount of time available for her to train in (not a lot on both counts).

In short, I'm thinking that the best use of her time at present is to focus on lots of squatting, rather than sacrificing that for too much assistance work. Your thoughts?

moulesfrites

15-05-2005, 13:05

Sun 15.05.05

Squat 5x20 3x27.5 3x35 3x40 1x42.5 1.45 3x47.5
Partial squats 1x47.5 3x50 3x55 1x60
OHP 3x10 3x15 3x17.5 2x3x20
Curls 3x10 3x15 3x17x5

Squats are quite shallow today. Also need to arch back a little more in the heavier squats. OHP and curls are good.

Scourge

16-05-2005, 10:56

Squat 5x20 3x27.5 3x35 3x40 1x42.5 1x45 3x47.5 is what you actually did.

Daft child...

Robert

16-05-2005, 11:09

Sweet. You'll be squatting a plate a side in a few weeks.

Scourge

16-05-2005, 11:42

Sweet. You'll be squatting a plate a side in a few weeks.
Sure... 60kg on the partial looked very light indeed.

moulesfrites

16-05-2005, 14:09

Squat 5x20 3x27.5 3x35 3x40 1x42.5 1x45 3x47.5 is what you actually did.

Daft child...

Well your the moderator!...lol...

JumboTron9million

16-05-2005, 14:14

Scourge

16-05-2005, 14:35

jsut wrap a band round the knees in the bottom position of an unloaded sq after squating and have her psuh out against the band for either time or reps. Takes 1 minute and brought wee kirsty's SQ from 37.5Kg up to 45 in 3 weeks so might be worth a shot eh!

JBT
Thanks. The idea did cross my mind but the lightest bands I've got are monster minis, and they'll be too heavy doubled up. I'll have a look into improvising something.

JumboTron9million

16-05-2005, 19:53

Scourge

16-05-2005, 20:13

Dont double it up, tie a knot in it to shorten it.

If you need something really light and adjustable buy shock cord from a mountaineering shop and cut it yourself to size. Costs pennies per metre,

Yeah - Was going to try tying it to start with.

Didn't think of shock cord - How heavy is it?

JumboTron9million

17-05-2005, 08:42

If you mean how much resistance it takes about 3 loops to make a mini bands worth of tension with 5 mm shock cord.

JBT

Scourge

17-05-2005, 09:14

If you mean how much resistance it takes about 3 loops to make a mini bands worth of tension with 5 mm shock cord.

JBT
Excellent... Thanks.

moulesfrites

17-05-2005, 18:16

Tues 17.05.05

Squat 3x20 1x25 3x1x30 3x1x35 3x1x30
Bottom position squat 1x30 1x30(x) 4x1x30
OHP, 2 sec pause 3x10 3x15 2x3x17.5
Bent rows 3x3x20
Sit-ups 5xbw 5x2.5 2x5x5

Today was ok. Tried to put in some speed but didnt get too much faster. Overall ok. Rows need a bit more of a pull and need to arch back a bit more.

Robert

18-05-2005, 11:48

Yeah - Was going to try tying it to start with.

Didn't think of shock cord - How heavy is it?
How can you not have thought of shock cord when I posted a thread on it about 3-4 weeks ago!!!

Scourge

18-05-2005, 12:37

How can you not have thought of shock cord when I posted a thread on it about 3-4 weeks ago!!!
My apologies - I must be behind with my cataloguing and memorising of all your posts...

:016:

Robert

18-05-2005, 12:40

Apology accepted. Though I am still heart broke.

moulesfrites

22-05-2005, 13:12

Sun 22.06.05

Squat 5x20 3x27.5 1.35 1x40 1x45 1x47.5 1x50
Partial squats 1.40 1x50 3x52.5
OHP 3x10 3x15 3x17.5 3x3x20
Rows 3x10 4x3x15

OK ish today... not really my day. Haven’t trained for a while. Main target is to arch back for rows and squats. Weights felt heavy today.

Scourge

22-05-2005, 16:02

Today wasn't too bad. Not as good as we'd hoped for but, in the long run, better than we expected - We had been aiming for a 50kg for a single before your birthday, so we're a month ahead of ourselves in that respect.

You'll triple 50kg when you're on form, no trouble.

Man of Steel

17-06-2005, 12:58

Have you jacked in training?

Scourge

17-06-2005, 13:00

She has for the minute, which is a shame as she was making good progress - She his a bw squat on an off day about two months after starting training. Not bad for a 13 yo girl.

We'll see if we can entice her back over the summer holidays.

uk machine

17-06-2005, 14:23

Damn, bloody great numbers!! shame. gals allways need more enticement to iron game imo.

Scourge

17-06-2005, 16:06

Damn, bloody great numbers!! shame. gals allways need more enticement to iron game imo.
Yeah - Would have been good to see what she could deadlift. She's built a lot like her sister, who pulled double bw no worries before her back started playing up.