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bunnyluva
16-10-2004, 08:57
You'd think i'd be hapy about getting a new job but im absolutley crapping my pants. I start on Monday and my nerves just cannot handle it!lol
I've tried three new jobs in the past few months and left all of them in a couple of days cos I become a nervous wreck being the new guy.
I need a chill pill
Bunnykilla
bunnyluva
16-10-2004, 11:23
This job is just is simply labouring in a timber yard. I used to work for Focus, i have been their admin manager and warehouse manager, so im pretty much at home in an office or warehouse.
The jobs arent stressfull, just being the new guy freaks me out. I take pride in any work i do and probably take it far too seriously, so i end up putting a lot of stress on my myself.
Im trying some supplements someone recommended to chill me out for the first couple of weeks, once past them, i'd be fine.
Phil
Hulkster
16-10-2004, 12:40
wot supps have been reomended to u m8?
http://images.google.com/images?q=jim%20beam&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi
???
bunnyluva
16-10-2004, 13:39
someone has recommended phenibut and rhodiola rosea, i have both to try. I very wary of supplements and stuff but im getting desperate and the doc wouldnt give me valium lol
A mate recommended cannabis, but as a non smoker i didnt want to risk damaging my lungs.
yes very good Rob, vodka and coke in a diet coke bottle has crossed my mind lol.
bunnykilla
I used to smoke alot of weed and it defiantely relaxes you. Trouble is it relaxed me soo much that i didn't do a thing, just smoke it! :033:
After a while (about a year) of heavy smoking It didn'taffect me... it just tasted nice.
Eventually I thought what the **** and gave up smoking it. Now I eat it instead :023: (very good for you when taken orally, remember to get the dose right :046: )
Have you done it before mate... if not you won't be able to stop laughing! I rememember my first time :043:
DO NOT turn to rec drugs, thats seriously low. You'll lose my respect if you do.
PikeKing
16-10-2004, 23:28
DO NOT turn to rec drugs, thats seriously low. You'll lose my respect if you do.
totally agree with that, recreational drugs = loser
Angel Delight
16-10-2004, 23:54
Good Luck with the new job.
Keep calm and just relax, you don't need drugs, everything will be fine.
totally agree with that, recreational drugs = loser
I agree too. I know too many people who have gone down that road...
Black Knight
17-10-2004, 15:33
DO NOT turn to rec drugs, thats seriously low. You'll lose my respect if you do.
I seem to remember on another forum you saying you would be using steroids in the future, Rob? If your taking them for any reason other than purely medical that makes them recreational doesnt it?
No flame intended, just curious as to your reasoning.
Unless I've got it completely wrong and you never said you would use them?
You remember dead right. I have indeed said that. AAS is not in the same leauge as Canabis, Ecstacy, Speed, Coke etc etc. Not in my book anyways. They don't alter your brain patterns at all. Rec drugs are used for one thing, pleasure. AAS are a means to an end, a cosmetic drug at worst. If you were to try and argue that AAS were in the same leauge as heroin, scag and coke, you might as well put pro-hormones in the same basket, but then you could also argure that Ginseng and St Johns Wort are also rec drugs as they are not medicinal in that you don't need them to fix a problem. Why not put alcohol in that basket to?and whey, and creatine, and many other compounds/products that are not medicinal. Where you draw the line is up to you, but it is my opinion that Dianabol is far less likey to promote violence, crime and ill health than, say Ecstacy, or scag.
Matt Jones
17-10-2004, 17:53
Rec drugs are used for one thing, pleasure.
That's not entirely true - the whole reason drugs were brought into this thread was because Bunnykilla had been advised to use them to help at work
also , I suspect amphetamines are used more these days by Professionals working long hours than "pleasure seekers" ( I was told this by a guy who .... er , lets just say he has a good idea which kind of people are buying amphetimines - I am not going to discuss him ,so nobody mail me asking for anything or to put you in touch with him !!)
I am not anti -steroid - but at the end of the day steroids are not "wonder sports supplements" they ARE powerful drugs that must be respected as such
Although the risks are nowhere near as bad as some will have you believe - they are still real risks
ALL drugs have the potential to screw up lives
Black Knight
17-10-2004, 18:16
I'm not anti-steroid either. I've thought about using them many times but finally decided against their use. I've no problem with anybody using them-its your body at the end of the day.
However, I stand by my original argument. Unless there is a medical reason to take any drug, there use must be regarded as recreational.
What about the medical use of cannabis for MS sufferers? I know someone with MS and it really helps him- alot.
I still eat cannabis- has no bad effects on your body what so ever. Just chills you out. (don't do it often).
I have never taken anything else like e's or mushrooms tho.
Black Knight
17-10-2004, 18:50
What about the medical use of cannabis for MS sufferers? I know someone with MS and it really helps him- alot.
I still eat cannabis- has no bad effects on your body what so ever. Just chills you out. (don't do it often).
I have never taken anything else like e's or mushrooms tho.
I think you've answered your own question, mate. If you're taking cannabis for medical reasons (MS or whatever) then thats medicinal.
'Chilling out' is recreational use. Simple ;) .
I have no strong views on cannabis. However, I believe the modern strains are significantly stronger than those which were popularised in the sixties. Medical research indicates that there is a link between long-term use and serious episodes of psychosis.
bunnyluva
17-10-2004, 20:51
What makes recreational drug users losers?
I'm not into drugs myself but see no difference in cannabis and alcohol taken as recreational drugs, and wouldn't describe anyone who takes these recreationally as losers.
Many people unwind with a glass of wine after a hard day, some smoke a joint.
bunnykilla
I'm against alcohol too. Why do people need drugs/smokes/drink to relax? They are stressed, have problems etc... You're never going to find the answer to your problems in the bottom of the glass/cigarette packet/roll up tin, so why do it?
What makes recreational drug users losers?
I'm not into drugs myself but see no difference in cannabis and alcohol taken as recreational drugs, and wouldn't describe anyone who takes these recreationally as losers.
Many people unwind with a glass of wine after a hard day, some smoke a joint.
bunnykilla
Exactly mate... I never used to drink, jst unwind with a joint. If people say Cannabis is a recreationl drug, Alcohol is too.
Black Knight
17-10-2004, 21:34
I'm against alcohol too. Why do people need drugs/smokes/drink to relax? They are stressed, have problems etc... You're never going to find the answer to your problems in the bottom of the glass/cigarette packet/roll up tin, so why do it?
I think its human nature, Mike. People from the world over have used all sorts of substances throughout history. I guess its partly curiosity.
I've nothing against alcohol in moderation. I enjoy it and its proven to have benefits to health. Like any drug its open to abuse.
Strange world we live in where its socially acceptable to abuse alcohol which causes huge amounts of crime and misery, yet sportsmen who use AAS are branded as some kind of monstrous sub-humans!
Ah well, theres nowt so funny as folk!
BengDogg
17-10-2004, 22:13
I'm against alcohol too. Why do people need drugs/smokes/drink to relax? They are stressed, have problems etc... You're never going to find the answer to your problems in the bottom of the glass/cigarette packet/roll up tin, so why do it?
I agree i was explaining to mrs dogg that alcohol is a drug just the other day, so s caffien, i consume very little of each, except for when the old pro plus comes out for races & endurance events
BengDogg
17-10-2004, 22:20
Strange world we live in where its socially acceptable to abuse alcohol which causes huge amounts of crime and misery, yet sportsmen who use AAS are branded as some kind of monstrous sub-humans!
Ah well, theres nowt so funny as folk!
exactly my feelings, I wonder on average how many people are badly beaten/killed by drunken thugs? More than are killed by bbers,
And how many die from excess consumption, smoking?
My mrs bought the paper to me a couple of weeks back nearly crying through laughing at a story, I read it and have to admit i found it hilarious,
A woman died after binge drinking on a celebration she was 9 times over the limit (how many pints is that? 15 ish maybe?) Now thats not funny but the next bit tickled me, Can you guess what she was celebrating to get so pi55ed she died? She was celebrating getting Double glazing installed!!!!!!!!!WTF!!!?????? I guess she is going to miss out on the potential fuel savings the air spaced glass could offer her now.
bunnyluva
17-10-2004, 22:39
DO NOT turn to rec drugs, thats seriously low. You'll lose my respect if you do.
Would you class smoking a bit of cannabis to help chill out during a particulary stressful couple of weeks as recreational drug taking?
In my case ive had to walk away from three other jobs due to very high anxiety / stress. I have mortgage to pay so I need to get back into work. I think its fair to say I could do with some help to keep my nerves calm during the first week at least.
This comes from someone who doesnt smoke, drinks very little alcohol and even doesn't like taking painkillers.
bunnykilla
Alcoholic drinks shouldn't be branded with the same brush as rec drugs. I drink beer fpor the same reason i drink cranberry juice, i like the taste. I drink bourbon for the same reason. I don'tlike vodka so i don't drink it. Just because i have the oppertunity to abuse alcoholic drinks does not mean i do.
There is a distinct difference between drinking alcoholic beverages for the ABV, and drinking them because you like the taste. One is abuse, the other isn't.
The same is true of canabis imo. If you have MS and need it, to give you a quality of life, then thats fine. If you use to get "get mashed", or just use it to "chill out", then your abusing it. Bunnykilla is nervous about his new job, is getting mashed out his face x numbers of times/week going to solve his problem? No. So in that instance, imo, its absue.
bunnyluva
18-10-2004, 11:50
Feeling nervous is about someting new is natural thing, but when it becomes so bad it effects your breathing, appetite and makes you very emotional then it becomes a medical problem, does it not?
Bunnykilla
Feeling nervous is about someting new is natural thing, but when it becomes so bad it effects your breathing, appetite and makes you very emotional then it becomes a medical problem, does it not?
Bunnykilla
I woud say so. But is cannabis the answer? MS sufferers have 0 optionns. You have a whole host of unexplored LEGAL options.
I think its human nature, Mike. People from the world over have used all sorts of substances throughout history. I guess its partly curiosity.
I've nothing against alcohol in moderation. I enjoy it and its proven to have benefits to health. Like any drug its open to abuse.
Strange world we live in where its socially acceptable to abuse alcohol which causes huge amounts of crime and misery, yet sportsmen who use AAS are branded as some kind of monstrous sub-humans!
Ah well, theres nowt so funny as folk!
My thought exactly. People turn to substances for help, a quick fix, but cant honestly expect that a substance is a cure, this is laughable. I have had very bad times in my life and I havent turned to anything and I know I am stronger for it.
Feeling nervous is about someting new is natural thing, but when it becomes so bad it effects your breathing, appetite and makes you very emotional then it becomes a medical problem, does it not?
Bunnykilla
Feeling nervous isnt always natural (in the sense it happens all the time), it is a mental process stimulated by your response to your fear/anxiety etc... You are obviously not handling it well, you need to pin point what your fear is.
bunnyluva
18-10-2004, 12:15
Its probably the fear of making a fool of myself. Not knowing anyone or where anything is, I can't think of any way to work on this, other than to push through the first week or two till i find my feet.
Generally im not a nervous guy.
No one has picked up the fact that im going to try rhodiola, a supplement. This stuff comes from plants. Cannabis is also a plant but because its classed as an illegal drug, it's a terrible thing to do.
bunnykilla
Its probably the fear of making a fool of myself. Not knowing anyone or where anything is, I can't think of any way to work on this, other than to push through the first week or two till i find my feet.
Generally im not a nervous guy.
No one has picked up the fact that im going to try rhodiola, a supplement. This stuff comes from plants. Cannabis is also a plant but because its classed as an illegal drug, it's a terrible thing to do.
bunnykilla
Visualise your work environment. Be in it. Look around. What do you see? People? Yes. What are they doing? Working. What are you doing?.....
Visualise. Live your environment before it takes place. Feal your fear. Stop if necessary, then see it again. It isnt so bad is it?
I use this technique all the time lifting weights, and am better for it.
Metal rehearsal is a pschological technique which works as the fear of the unexpected has reduced. We as people tend to dramatise too much, make a situation worst then it is, due to our insecurities so we expect the worse, this is wrong. You have taken this to an extreme level.
You sound like you have had problems at work in the past?
BengDogg
18-10-2004, 12:51
I think you will be fine Phil, just relax and enjoy the ride, I hope it goes well
Opium also comes from a plant, in fact 99% of drugs do. That doesn't make it right.
Alcoholic drinks shouldn't be branded with the same brush as rec drugs. I drink beer fpor the same reason i drink cranberry juice, i like the taste. I drink bourbon for the same reason. I don'tlike vodka so i don't drink it. Just because i have the oppertunity to abuse alcoholic drinks does not mean i do.
There is a distinct difference between drinking alcoholic beverages for the ABV, and drinking them because you like the taste. One is abuse, the other isn't.
The same is true of canabis imo. If you have MS and need it, to give you a quality of life, then thats fine. If you use to get "get mashed", or just use it to "chill out", then your abusing it. Bunnykilla is nervous about his new job, is getting mashed out his face x numbers of times/week going to solve his problem? No. So in that instance, imo, its absue.
Ok... So would you say that if you smoke cannabis because you like the taste thats ok(thats why I did), but if you smoke cannabis to get wrecked that is abuse?
Don't be absurd. You can drink beer without the effects of alcohol overcoming you, you can't smoke cannabis without feeling the effects. I can drink (usually) 3-5 beers and feel NO different. From what i have seen of friends, from the very first drag, a joint lets you know whats in it. Also, you didn't smoke it because you liked the tatse, as you say: you eat it now to feel the effects without the need to smoke it.
Don't be absurd. You can drink beer without the effects of alcohol overcoming you, you can't smoke cannabis without feeling the effects. I can drink (usually) 3-5 beers and feel NO different. From what i have seen of friends, from the very first drag, a joint lets you know whats in it. Also, you didn't smoke it because you liked the tatse, as you say: you eat it now to feel the effects without the need to smoke it.
Yep I sometimes eat it... who cares?! I am not being 'absurd', your mates must be lightweights if the first drag or two hits them :D ...and i did smoke it becuase i liked the taste, it hardly had any affect as i used to smoke soo much.
Fact; Alcohol is a far worse drug than cannabis, no deaths have ever been recorded for cannabis overdose... can you say the same about alcohol....
didn't think so :019:
Look, no matter what your opinions are on the drug, onme fact remains, ITS ILLEGAL. The government have draw a line, and so have I. If you think alcohol kills too many people, perhaps we should ban smoking, and cars, and trains, and high risk jobs, and adventure sports etc etc. You have to draw a line somewhere, I draw it under illegal drugs.
BengDogg
19-10-2004, 19:03
I personally would expand that line to include smoking & drinking
I personally would expand that line to include smoking & drinking
Agree! I don't see why cannabis (a far less dangerous drug than alcohol), is illegal when there are much more dangerous drugs available which are legal (Alcohol & Tabacco).
Stupid IMO, time the government wisened up.
bunnyluva
20-10-2004, 15:06
Look, no matter what your opinions are on the drug, onme fact remains, ITS ILLEGAL. The government have draw a line, and so have I. If you think alcohol kills too many people, perhaps we should ban smoking, and cars, and trains, and high risk jobs, and adventure sports etc etc. You have to draw a line somewhere, I draw it under illegal drugs.
I find it hard to believe you can jump on the 'ITS ILLEGAL' bandwagon but then admit to considering the use of AAS.
I don't see the harm in cannabis, or any drug in its natural form its when you start refining things that makes them dangerous.
I don't take cannabis personally nor AAS, just a few beers when I go out to make me tipsy :)
Bunnykilla
bunnyluva
20-10-2004, 15:11
Anyway I did the job for two days, on the third day before i went in I had a panic attack and never went in :(
I rang them and said I will pop down to explain and they said it was ok, but I got ready and simply couldnt face going in.
Im not sure how to get back into work
Please no one come back to me and say summit like 'pull yourself together' This is the fourth time now, Ive been to the docs and tried beta blockers and anti depressants, im giving it my best shot!
Bunnykilla
Hulkster
20-10-2004, 15:54
would u/have u considered hypnotherapy m8?
would u/have u considered hypnotherapy m8?
Dont waste your money.
Hulkster
20-10-2004, 16:03
u talking from personal experience there mike?
Hulkster
20-10-2004, 16:12
from a purely sporting background hypnosis/imagery is widely used, McCallum recommends self hypnosis in keys to progress i read somewhere the russians took 11 hypnotherapists to the melbourne olympics so sports wise it must have some validity. i would be intrested in how sucessful it is for cases like bunnykillas. to dismiss it out of hand as a waste of money could be a bit OTT IMO.
u talking from personal experience there mike?
I'm not, but in the pycho community it is considered laughable. I had a lecteur on it at uni and have read many books. The general consensus from those who know is that it's an over hyped rip off.
I'll dig up some details if you wish.
Hulkster
20-10-2004, 16:53
dont bother m8 for every research paper u could give me i could no doubt bring one up that supports hypnotherapy. my sports psych lecturer at uni considered it to be a useful tool and far from laughable but each to their own. im only talking from a sports perspective tbh im not pashionate enough about to get into any detailed discussion regards it but for bunnykilla i think its at least worth looking into and any other therapys that could improve his state of mind.
dont bother m8 for every research paper u could give me i could no doubt bring one up that supports hypnotherapy. my sports psych lecturer at uni considered it to be a useful tool and far from laughable but each to their own. im only talking from a sports perspective tbh im not pashionate enough about to get into any detailed discussion regards it but for bunnykilla i think its at least worth looking into and any other therapys that could improve his state of mind.
Fair enough, agree to disagree.
BengDogg
20-10-2004, 17:11
Anyway I did the job for two days, on the third day before i went in I had a panic attack and never went in :(
I rang them and said I will pop down to explain and they said it was ok, but I got ready and simply couldnt face going in.
Im not sure how to get back into work
Please no one come back to me and say summit like 'pull yourself together' This is the fourth time now, Ive been to the docs and tried beta blockers and anti depressants, im giving it my best shot!
Bunnykilla
This is a real shame mate! I hope you find your answer cos things sound pretty serious, how were things going?
bunnyluva
20-10-2004, 21:09
Cheers guys, i rang today to say i had a panic attack, i spoke to a bloke who works there tonight and he said nothing was said, he also said they were more than happy with the work i had did in my first two days.
Its been left open for me to try to get in tomorrow, I will only know if im up to it tomorrow when the time comes.
Its only labouring in a sawmill but i'd like to stick in and save up for a plotter so i can up a little project doing signs shops and custom car stuff.
Its totally illogical but my legs go wobble, my stomach tightens and i burst into tears with fear lol. Its doing my head in.
Bunnykilla
bk,
my wife suffered from panic attacks very badly after we had our first child. after a few years our doc prescribed CELEXA and it worked wonders.
Don't know if yo have tried or will try something like this, but may be worth a shot.
I witnessed first hand how this can take over your life and it is not something to take lightly.
best of luck to you
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