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The_Vain_One
08-03-2005, 20:36
Hello All,
Here is what I have for increasing strength. I would like to hear your comments.
He did either flat or incline bench presses once a week. Warm up with three sets of 10 repetitions, increasing the weight with each set, but staying below 70 percent of your one-rep max. (He did 135, 185, and 225.) Then do up to six sets of one repetition, starting with a weight that's at least 80 percent of your one-rep max. Progress by small--5 percent or less--increments. (He did 315, 335, 355, 365, 375, and 385.) Then reverse this path until you're back to the weight you used for your first one-rep set. To thoroughly exhaust the pectorals, HE would finish by bench-pressing 315 pounds for two sets of five reps, then finally lifting 135 until failure.
Results and who this celebrity is? I will tell you after I hear your comments. I thought I would add some tease. So what do you think?
Rogue_zero
08-03-2005, 20:47
seems like an ok session to me although I would add a second session midweek. Id guess that its not a sports celeb, so judging by the weights an experienced trainer. Im thinking possibly of a musical background. Its also got to be someone popular in USA if your location is correct. hmmm 3 names come to mind, 50cent, LLcool J and a wild card Mr T?
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 03:06
Ok. Good guesses. And one of you is right. Obviously he read the article. Delboy you are correct. It was Will Smith. He did this for 3 months to get ready for the movie I-Robot. It increased his bench max by 75 pounds. Obviously it is NOT "s**t" Robert. I would like to hear why you think it is. Thanks for playing everyone.
BengDogg
09-03-2005, 06:00
And he hid his legs from the world cos he forgot to squat???
lol but it is crap
it's hardly an optimal way to train bench press, even i can see that!
hmmmm will smith benching 175kg...he did look quite muscular in that film.... but 175kg my ass
if all i have to look forward to is a skinny physique like his then i may aswell give up now
bunnyluva
09-03-2005, 08:09
So the workout it
3 warmups
6 progressive singles
2 sets of 5
1 lighter set to failure.
Leaving the issue of whos routine it is aside, whats wrong with it?
Phil
PikeKing
09-03-2005, 08:16
hmmmm will smith benching 175kg...he did look quite muscular in that film.... but 175kg my ass
yeah i agree
Who the hell cares what Will smith benches and how, let alone how much he lies about how much he benches...
Leaving the issue of whos routine it is aside, whats wrong with it?
Mmm... I would assume that, as an actor, Smith would be training for muscular hypertrophy i.e. the appearance of strength, rather than actual strength itself. While it's not too bad as a strength routine (except for the last set to failure and the lack of assistance work), it is very different to what you would expect from a hypertrophy-focused routine, so I suppose you could say that it's shit because it's not really suited to the trainer's aims.
I'm also extremely suspicious as to how proven it is. Will Smith is a skinny little fecker and I'll assume that he's claiming these numbers are raw (can you imagine Will Smith getting into a bench shirt for training), if he could push these weights, he could also go and win himself some national powerlifting championships in some RAW fed somewhere. The odds of anybody being able to do this are obviously quite small, but the odds of an rapper/actor (right back at ya') being able to do this with the limited training you'd expect Smith to be doing is nigh-on impossible. Also remember that, at his age, making the kind of progress he's claiming to have made, within only one training cycle, makes it even more incredulous.
Maybe he gets his gear from LL Cool J...
[QUOTE=Scourge_of_God]I'm also extremely suspicious as to how proven it is. Will Smith is a skinny little feckerQUOTE]
He isn't that skinny, is he? I have seen him looking quite big in some films.
Something I found online...
"IOL reader Sebati asked:
Is it true that it took one whole year to buff up for the movie Ali, and if so, how many days a week was that?
He spent almost a year training for the movie, working through a five-day-a-week, six-hour-per-day regimen, running in combat boots through snow in thin mountain air, lifting weights and boxing. He gained nearly 13,5kg of muscle, going from 87,3kg to 100,3kg. At the beginning of his weight training he bench-pressed about 80kg. By the end of the year, he was pumping about 165kg. "
six hours? ever heard of overtraining?
30lbs of pure muscle in less than a year?
i think its bullshit
either that or he was on coleman's 'supplement' regime
six hours? ever heard of overtraining?
30lbs of pure muscle in less than a year?
i think its bullshit
either that or he was on coleman's 'supplement' regime
People just don't like to think that Will Smith could kick their arse in a benching contest! :036:
80 - 165 oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
lol mark you are right
but i still think its bullshit
does it really look like he is capable of moving that weight? http://www.nakedboys.ws/db/will_smith/will_smith.jpg
lol mark you are right
but i still think its bullshit
does it really look like he is capable of moving that weight? http://www.nakedboys.ws/db/will_smith/will_smith.jpg
I don't know. Was he 100kg in that picture?
Anyway, do skinny boys at the olympics look like they can snatch 100kg?!
no but they dont claim to put on 30lb of pure muscle in one year or more than double their lifts in that time either
and i also bet if he has really claimed this he will claim to be natural
what a joke
sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2001/1203/photo/wil2.jpg (http://)
lean, muscular, i'll give him that
but not a powerlifter capable of 165kg or anywhere near it
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 13:19
I sense jealousy all around. I live in Boca Raton and go to Miami almost everyday. I have seen Will Smith numerous times. Firstly that picture you put up there has nothing to do with how he looked when I saw him. Secondly his trainer is Darrell Foster. For those of you who dont know, Foster was a boxing and fitness coach for welterweight champion Sugar Ray Leonard for 18 years before training Smith. So obviously he has more credentials than anyone I know here. (it is a blind statement really for I dont know anyone here :036: )
Before trashing the program, please think of the sources or at least ask. Peace all around.
I'm not jealous of will smith. I admit I am jealous of anyone who benches 165kg though.
But there is no way will smith went from 80kg-165kg in less than 1 year and put on 30lbs of pure muscle.
It's utter crap.
http://www.brawl-hall.com/gallery/data/media/5/this_sucks1.jpg
Look pal, it takes TIME to get a 165kg RAW bench. Also, a 165kg RAW bench would equate to a 200+kg bench in an F6. Will Smith (skinny ****) pushing 200kg? LMFAO.
Why doesn't he enter some local PL bench only comps and win? I'll tell you why, cos its BS. Just like the claims that Hulk Hogan had 24" arms. No-one for one minute belives it.
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 13:55
I have an idea why. May be he is so beyond rich and famous and do not want to be humiliated by a noname guy by getting beaten in a little contest. Also I dont think you can win anything with 385lbs bench around here. I just wanted your opinions about the program, rather than trying to make people believe that the results are unachievable. Whether he achieved the results or not, is it a good program?
Also I dont think you can win anything with 385lbs bench around here.
165kg raw bench ? obviously you would be suprised
Whether he achieved the results or not, is it a good program?
See Scourge's post.
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 14:05
Can anyone give me a hypertrophy routine? And is there any disadvantages? I would like to compare and may be try it sometime. I am getting a bit bored of my current routine and just want to try something new.
People just don't like to think that Will Smith could kick their arse in a benching contest!
I'm not questioning whether or not he could kick my arse, or the arses of other people on IC, but the idea he could kick so many other people's arses in so little time. He's claiming to have got himself from skinny runt to respectable powerlifter standards inside of a year using a routine that, while not completely dire, isn't by any means outstanding. It doesn't happen.
How many people do you know to have genuinely more than doubled their bench in a year? Or put 85kg on their bench in a year? Pick one. It doesn't happen.
Then have a look at him - Even in films like 'Ali' he's extremely skinny by 165kg bench standards.
In short, he's either superhuman or full of shit. I've never met any superhumans, but I've met a load of people who are full of shit. I wonder which one he is...
Can anyone give me a hypertrophy routine? And is there any disadvantages? I would like to compare and may be try it sometime. I am getting a bit bored of my current routine and just want to try something new.
Best to start a new post in the BBing forum mate, preferably with some brief details of your stats, training history, aims and current routine.
I don't believe Will Smith benches 165kg. Try and get a picture of him benching if you see him so often. Get some real proof.
Will Smith most be on some heavy duty roids to go from this:
http://www-music.duke.edu/jazz_archive/artists/jones.quincy/jcf3/freshprince.gif
to how he looks now.
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 14:36
I dont know why everyone is saying he doubled his bench in a year. The article is claiming he benched 75 lbs more in three months. So he was benching 310 then went up to 385lbs. I dont know if he continued to gain or not, but this is the 3 month result. I know I know if you multiply his progress by 4 you'd get how much he progresses in a year. But would that be really possible? Possible to keep gaining the same amount? Or you make that one high acceleration in the first months and then smooth the ride out a bit?
Again I am just sharing the article with you. Not defending him.
Then have a look at him - Even in films like 'Ali' he's extremely skinny by
165kg bench standards.
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But he is very lean. In Ali he was a lean 100kg (allegedly).
You don't have to look like this to bench 165kg....
http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/04-050-feature/image003.jpg
:043:
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 14:47
In Ali, he was benching less than 385. The article says he was benching 350. For I-Robot movie he was doing better. Just an info.
Matt Jones
09-03-2005, 14:48
Who knows !
I have seen people make progress I would have normally considered unrealistic loads of times over the years OK so it aint common , but stranger things happen
- I thought the sole purpose of being a rapper is to bulls**t people about how great you are anyway ?
Anyway - I thought the sole purpose of being a rapper is to bulls**t people about how great you are anyway ?
hahaha exactly
That pic is of a 700lb bencher you muppet.
That pic is of a 700lb bencher you muppet.
So? I'm just saying that someone doesn't have to look like a fatboy in order to have a decent bench.
wtf has that got to do with anything?
Matt Jones
09-03-2005, 15:02
So? I'm just saying that someone doesn't have to look like a fatboy in order to have a decent bench.
I agree I have seen plenty of people that have been smaller , or at least no bigger than Will Smith benching those kind of weights (160 /180k )
But I think it is the timescale that is being called into question
wtf has that got to do with anything?
Well, it is relevant because people are saying that Will Smith can't bench 165kg because he is "skinny". I then pointed out that he is 100kg lean.
Would it seem more believable if he was 240lbs covered in layers of flab?
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 15:10
The core power also important in this as well. You can be small and lean but your core is well built, you may be able to lift much more than what everybody thinks you can.
Well, it is relevant because people are saying that Will Smith can't bench 165kg because he is "skinny". I then pointed out that he is 100kg lean.
Would it seem more believable if he was 240lbs covered in layers of flab?
100kg is 220lb, so no.
It would be more beleivable if he said: "It took 2 years and I wasn't able to stay lean while putting on 20kg of mass and almost doubling my bench press. That is to say, were I not on more tren hex than Dave-****ing-Tate."
The core power also important in this as well. You can be small and lean but your core is well built, you may be able to lift much more than what everybody thinks you can.
Don't mention the c-word or PikeKing will let you know what's what... :p
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 15:50
Heh! Thanks Scourge! I am out of the loop on that one. Let him do it. Bring it on Pike!!! :014:
Peace
hahaha exactly You guys really don't understand true hip hop. All the hate a lot of people give to rap music makes me sick, us rap fans do not usually reciprocate that hate on the antagonistic rock / metal / indie fans.
Have some respect.
Hate is good.
Besides, Indie fans barely have a pulse, let alone the will/inclanation to hate.
I hate all of them. Except Rock. Rock, er... Rocks.
Matt Jones
09-03-2005, 17:39
You guys really don't understand true hip hop. All the hate a lot of people give to rap music makes me sick, us rap fans do not usually reciprocate that hate on the antagonistic rock / metal / indie fans.
Have some respect.
Respect ?? have you ever listened to the lyrics of your average rap song ?? Jesus !
Rayza, if you want respect, show it first.
You fcuking hiphop chav wannabe.
Respect ?? have you ever listened to the lyrics of your average rap song ?? Jesus !
I love rap and always will.
My favourite Rap Bands are Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five, Slick Rick, Dj Hi-Tek & Talib Kweli and many more, all of which don't rap about guns and drugs, it's only a recent trend.
"You should have gone to school, you could've learned a trade
But you laid in the bed where the bums have laid
Now all the time you're crying that you're underpaid
It's like that and that's the way it is...........
.....One thing I know is that life is short
So listen up homeboy, give this a thought
The next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught?
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is "
An example from Run DMC, from It's Like That - Now those lyrics are much more useful than Gangsta Rap, or even alot of Rock/Indie.
Also songs like "Proud To Be Black" and "You're Blind" tell how young black americans shouldn't go into a life of crime but work hard.
Like some rock bands preach about the devil and death, doesn't seem great to me either!
Matt Jones
09-03-2005, 18:30
I think we are looking at a whole different kettle of fish with rap from that era Delboy - I was heavily into Public Enemy ,Mantronix ,Stetsasonic , Schoolly D , Kool moe Dee , Eric B & rakim , Gangstarr , Boo Yaa Tribe , LL , BDP etc . and although in "those days" there was still a gangsta element , there was a hell of a lot more depth to the music and lyrics
I feel it is a shame that rap has evolved the way it has
Respect ?? have you ever listened to the lyrics of your average rap song ?? Jesus ! The average rap song is awful, it is those that elevate themselves above the rest that I believe you should respect.
I feel it is a shame that rap has evolved the way it has So do I, IMO from 1993 - 1997 were the golden years for rap. Now it's all about materialistic lyrics, with everyone and their father claiming to be a gangsta and rapping about guns.
BengDogg
09-03-2005, 19:23
Maybe he was on a machine benching
GoldenArrow
09-03-2005, 19:28
I like that advert with the group that look like the darkness which goes
"SHEPHERDS PIE!!!!!"
That rocks.
PikeKing
09-03-2005, 20:34
The core power also important in this as well. You can be small and lean but your core is well built, you may be able to lift much more than what everybody thinks you can.
core my ****ing arse, thats all i'm saying on the subject
The_Vain_One
09-03-2005, 20:37
AAh the much anticipated Core comment from Pike. You have been expected here, welcome. Please feel free to deliberate on the Core issue. a2a
Peace
PikeKing
09-03-2005, 20:41
i dont care how strong your core is, its not going to bench 300lbs plus for you!
and will smith FFS! i bet hes a 200 crunch per night ****, strong core my arse
Rogue_zero
09-03-2005, 21:08
People just don't like to think that Will Smith could kick their arse in a benching contest! :036:
he couldnt kick mine!
does sound a fishy tale, but, Im a raw 500lb+ bencher(drug free too) but If I had access to top notch equipment, coaches and had no 12 hour day and night shifts to do with my own prsonal nutritionist and most of all several million pounds then maybe big big gains are possible 600+? 700+?. Not saying I dont believe its posssible but wouldnt be the first little fib told by actors or their lackys!
bring it on "big Willie"
the block
09-03-2005, 23:05
lol mark you are right
but i still think its bullshit
does it really look like he is capable of moving that weight? http://www.nakedboys.ws/db/will_smith/will_smith.jpg
i'm a tad concerned about the "naked boys" bit in that link. is there anything we should know? :018:
Why is this even being discussed? lol!
Never read so much bollocks in my life...:013:
core my ****ing arse, thats all i'm saying on the subject
Yay!
Right... This thread is so off-topic you couldn't see it with a telescope.
Anyone so inclined should feel free to post a new "rap sucks" thread in the Idle Banter forum.
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