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Mike_Hawkins
01-02-2012, 15:37
What cider?
Thursday 2/2/12
Speed Deadlift - 180x6x3
Wide Grip Barbell Shrugs - 130x4x10
EZ Bar Curls - 42x3x10
Renegade Rows - BWx3x6
DB Back Extension into Kelso - 32.5x3x10
Adductor not complaining too much about deadlifting, so got some speed pulls done. Not much else to say about all that really. ****ing hate sessions without one decent, heavy lift in them.
Saturday 4/2/12
Paused Bench - 145x2x2 / 105x3x3
Suspended Inverted Row (feet on high box) - BW+5x4x10
Single Arm Cross Body Chest Press - 30x3x10
Suspended Single Arm Inverted Row - BWx3x10
Fallouts - BWx3x10
Fairly underwhelming. Shoulder a bit wooly. Leg ****ing hurting. Bodyweight in gym 97.6kg!
Are you actually trying to lose weight or does your body just hate you?
JumboTron9million
05-02-2012, 12:04
Are you actually trying to lose weight or does your body just hate you?
Just one more body to add to the list.
Haha. Nice.
I am not trying not to; put it that way. I eat pretty well, don't eat much at all in the way of crap, and generally make sensible decisions when I eat out. I am still holding on to a little bodyfat--maybe 3 or 4%--that, long term, I would like to see the back of. So, as I am only a couple kg below the class limit I wish to remain in, I am happy to let my body to slowly get rid of it, as it is wont to do, and make a concerted effort in filling back up to 100kg with some more LBM in due course.
In other news, after 3-hours of traipsing around Exeter and a subsequent parking ticket for overstaying, I have concluded that it is even more impossible to find a suit that fits me as a lean prick, than it was as a fat prick. My traps pull the armpits up about 2-inches too high, I can't find a jacket smaller than a 48 that fits properly around my arms, which is then subsequently 2-3 sizes too big everywhere else, even in super slim fit. And the trousers, **** me the trousers. LEGGINGS! The girl in Burtons said "your guns are too big". The woman in Marks and Spencer agreed I looked absurd in everything I tried on. The ******s in Moss Bros simply insist they can alter, at extra cost, a ****ing already-overpriced 48 into a 42 with 48 arms, without it looking ridiculous when they've finished. The old guy in Debenhams just said the only way I'd get anything to fit would be to have it made. I did bump into the Tatman and Growler though, which was nice.
PikeKing
05-02-2012, 16:30
i have the same problem with suits, i think i had to buy a 48 jacket that if i do it up it looks ridiculously massive
SomeOldDog
05-02-2012, 16:31
Get a custom job mate.
You don't have to go Gieves and Hawkes (hella quid) just because you need a tailored fit.
IIRC (it was a while back) Austin Reed do custom suits for like £500.
£500? Wow. I've got a feeling Tim doesn't want to spend more than ~£30 on a suit!
Even I'm too muscular for a lot of women's clothing (which, frankly, is ridiculous given how puny I am). Must be a nightmare for you beasts!
I found an italian suit company called Boggi (http://shop.boggi.it/eshop/category/Boggi-Suits.html/1/frmCatID/25058/) with an outlet locally, they seemed to cater for us non-skinnies a bit better, they did some minor alterations on a suit for me for £50 and it fits awesome. Think the suit was £230 so £280 in total, might be worth seeing if they have one near you.
Even for me I was having the same problem, either sprayed on, or looked like a box. The idiots in Moss Bros were very unhelpful.
£500? Wow. I've got a feeling Tim doesn't want to spend more than ~£30 on a suit!
Even I'm too muscular for a lot of women's clothing (which, frankly, is ridiculous given how puny I am). Must be a nightmare for you beasts!
£500 is not hugely expensive for a nice suit.
Tim, even considered get measured up locally and giving measurements to a Thailand be-spoke suit place? Mate of mine does it for business suits all the time.
kinkymisspinky
05-02-2012, 19:44
Maybe you could cut the sleeves off the 42 and wear it like a muscle t-shirt?
Though seriously, it's worth paying for a good suit, and maybe worth considering having one made up like Aled suggests.
Was a pleasure to bump in to you today sir.
Growl was impressed with your weight loss.
1 of the best beards i`ve ever seen by the way :038:
Go smart casual ie in a vest
JonnyJames
06-02-2012, 07:27
Even *I* had to get my suit for my sister's wedding altered...
Did you try that tailors on the Cathedral Green? My dad has had a couple of absolutely beautiful suits made there.
I wouldn't trust Eddie around a decent suit.
plateau2
06-02-2012, 08:10
Got one done in a holiday in Thailand, picked a thin cloth too which is good for me as I'm generally hot most of the time
JumboTron9million
06-02-2012, 08:35
Tailor dude, it's the only way.
JonnyJames
06-02-2012, 08:43
Got one done in a holiday in Thailand, picked a thin cloth too which is good for me as I'm generally hot most of the time
This is something I really need to look into for my wedding; lest all the photos show me bright red and sweating buckets.
Much as I would like a tailored suit, the longest any piece of clothing seems to fit me right is about 6-months, due to my ever-changing body size and composition, so I am just not willing to shell out on having something made that may only get worn twice before it is useless to me.
JonnyJames
06-02-2012, 09:19
...that is an excellent point.
Just get a giant one and have about 8" spare waist band cinched up under a belt and get a massive jacket, look a bit ridiculous and take the jacket off as soon as practicable. Works alright for me and what do you care about your appearance?
This is what I have done previously and it looks shit. If I decide not to care about appearance then there is no point in getting a suit at all. Though seemingly even if I decide to there is still no point as I'd look better without. Trousers and shirts are not too much of a problem.
plateau2
06-02-2012, 09:30
Much as I would like a tailored suit, the longest any piece of clothing seems to fit me right is about 6-months, due to my ever-changing body size and composition, so I am just not willing to shell out on having something made that may only get worn twice before it is useless to me.
Again Thailand, from about £80 I think
Ah dude, savage. It took me quite a while to find something that fitted well as I'm skinny, but still have carpets and a fairly big chest. If I put on ANY weight, then none of it will fit anymore.... Dang!
JumboTron9million
06-02-2012, 12:25
Ah dude, savage. It took me quite a while to find something that fitted well as I'm skinny, but still have carpets and a fairly big chest. If I put on ANY weight, then none of it will fit anymore.... Dang!
The £650 odd quids worth of Boss custom cut suit that i can only wear when im sub 14 stone speaks of this...
Dude you're going to wales, shirt and trousers will put you in the top 10% of best dressed people there
SomeOldDog
06-02-2012, 12:35
Too many zeros there, Dave.
dude you're going to wales, shirt and trousers will put you in the top 10% of best dressed people there
lols!
Tuesday 7/2/12
Piece of Shit Unilateral Hammer Strength Leg Press Machine Thing - 170x4x15
Paused Bench - 100x2 / 120x1 / 140x1 / 145x3x3
Inverted Row (feet on high box) - BW+15x4x10
DB Rear Delt Flye - 12.5x3x12
Adductor taking its sweet ****ing time healing. No way I was squatting, but it coped OK with the gay leg press machine, which left mr fairly shaky-legged and pumped in the VMOs.
Benching good. I pretty much always have to work up to 140kg at the moment and guage what to do with the session off how that feels. Felt far better than normal today. Second set on 145 was real hard, but I didn't rest long after the first. Third was solid.
plateau2
08-02-2012, 08:17
Nice benching
Do you think the aductor issue is related to sumo pulling, any temptation to start using girly machines to strengthen the area.
PikeKing
08-02-2012, 08:24
Who's Mr Fairly?
its a typo
meant to be Mr Fairy
and thats tim refering to himself
its a typo
meant to be Mr Fairy
and thats tim refering to himself
:038:
Yup, I am Mr fairy, speaking about myself in the third person.
Interesting thought, Plat. Hadn't considered it anything more than one of those freak things. My adductors do get a battering from Sumo though. I had thought about smashing in some super-high rep stuff on those things for rehab. Hmm. Food for thought.
PikeKing
08-02-2012, 08:38
its not a super gay idea, I'd suggest try the machines but also experiement with cables/band for standing straight(er) leg work
I like to use lunges with a band round the thigh, pulling into ABduction for people with groin strains too
Nice one. I'll give it all a go.
Dude you're going to wales, shirt and trousers will put you in the top 10% of best dressed people there
tool xxx
Thursday 9/2/12
Deadlift - 180x3 / 200x3 / 220x2x3 / 200x3 / 180x15
Barbell Shrugs - 140x4x10
EZ Bar Curls - 47x3x7
Renegade Rows - BW+5x3x6
Back Extension - BW+25x3x10
A few speed pulls, a few less speedy, slightly heavier pulls which felt a lot shitter than they should for that kind of weight, a little light back off set. Meh. Good news is I am seeing some improvement in my adductor now.
Do you use straps for the shrugs dude?
SomeOldDog
09-02-2012, 20:51
Thursday 9/2/12
Deadlift - 180x3 / 200x3 / 220x2x3 / 200x3 / 180x15
Barbell Shrugs - 140x4x10
EZ Bar Curls - 47x3x7
Renegade Rows - BW+5x3x6
Back Extension - BW+25x3x10
A few speed pulls, a few less speedy, slightly heavier pulls which felt a lot shitter than they should for that kind of weight, a little light back off set. Meh. Good news is I am seeing some improvement in my adductor now.
Pleased to see the leg is playing ball.
I just YouTube'd renegade rows. How are you doing those? 5kg seems a bit light for you! Or am I being a 'tard?
I do, Aled.
I'm doing the renegades purely as an anti-rotational torso-stability exercise. Real slow, very strict, with a pause at the top. Attempting to maintain a completely rigid position throughout, with no shifting of bodyweight from side to side and nothing but the rowing arm moving at all. Done like that they're pretty challenging even with no weight.
SomeOldDog
10-02-2012, 08:49
Cool. Will have them in the next circuit.
JonnyJames
10-02-2012, 10:22
I'm doing the renegades purely as an anti-rotational torso-stability exercise. Real slow, very strict, with a pause at the top. Attempting to maintain a completely rigid position throughout, with no shifting of bodyweight from side to side and nothing but the rowing arm moving at all. Done like that they're pretty challenging even with no weight.
I can certainly vouch for this! Made the switch a couple of weeks ago (following His Swoleness' lead as per) and I think it will be a while before I need to use any weight at all.
Sunday 12/2/12
Military Press - 80x3 / 95x3 / 100x3 / 105x3
Push Press - 90x2 / 115x2 / 130x2 / 145x2
Military Press - 80x10
Suspended Inverted Row - BW+10x4x8
Suspended Prone Triceps Extension - BWx15
Fallout - BWx3x8
Unilateral Cable Face Pull into Cuban Rotation - pin4x3x15
Solo training first thing Sunday morning as I was attending the IC wedding yesterday and have shit on today. No bench: no spotters. So some overhead. First MP since Christmas day and first PP since November. Stability felt a bit off and the MP felt a little weak, but there was lots of power there on the pushies and if I hadn't caught the bar a little low after the second rep, and had to dump it as a result, I'd say at least another rep was there.
Didn't weigh myself but did take a waist measurement yesterday, which is down another half inch to 34.5". I doubt I'd even be over 95kg first thing without clothes now. Looking forward to ramping back up and hopefully getting a little bigger, rather than gradually smaller, soon.
JonnyJames
12-02-2012, 12:21
Unilateral Cable Face Pull into Cuban Rotation - pin4x3x15
Yet another exercise worth stealing.
Being ~ 95kg and push pressing 145kg is pretty good going!
Big push press mate :038:
plateau2
13-02-2012, 08:35
Huge pressing there!
Cheers, Gents. Really did feel good. 160kg might not be out of the question this year.
JonnyJames
13-02-2012, 09:59
Cheers, Gents. Really did feel good. 160kg might not be out of the question this year.
That would be outstanding.
Give us a bell when u go for 160 & i`ll pop up to ave a butchers son :035:
I'll probably fail it then!
Thursday 16/2/12
Bottom Position Good Morning - 100x2 / 120x2 / 130x2 / 140x2 / 145x2 / pins out > 110x10
Barbell Shrugs - 150x4x10
EZ Bar Curls - 47x5 / 52x2x5
Renegade Rows - BW+7.5x3x6
Also managed a few squats with 60kg and 80kg, reasonably pain-free. Hopefully back to some very light, high-rep squatting Tuesday.
GMs were brutal. Not helped by my belt having become uselessly loose again. Just taken it in another notch.
Mike_Hawkins
16-02-2012, 19:37
GMs were brutal. Not helped by my belt having become uselessly loose again. Just taken it in another notch.
Dude....just be a 90kg lifter!!!
Mike_Hawkins
16-02-2012, 19:43
HA!
SomeOldDog
16-02-2012, 20:02
nice gms skinny:)
**** that shit.
Why?
Also, what is Narc's Law exactly? It keeps getting mentioned and I haven't quite figured it out.
plateau2
17-02-2012, 13:21
Why?
Also, what is Narc's Law exactly? It keeps getting mentioned and I haven't quite figured it out.
Say something is wrong, then change your mind
I.e. belts and drugs
Tim was against belts?! I can't imagine that.
Sweet OHPressing, Mr Narcissus!!
Mike_Hawkins
17-02-2012, 14:21
Tim was against belts?! I can't imagine that.
Haha, I forgot about that one.
Pretty sure he was against curls and shrugs at one point also...
plateau2
17-02-2012, 14:31
Haha, I forgot about that one.
Pretty sure he was against curls and shrugs at one point also...
Might be better to have a seperate thread, and we can list them all!!
Mike_Hawkins
17-02-2012, 14:56
Might be better to have a seperate thread, and we can list them all!!
Nah, lets just try and get them all onto this page!!
SomeOldDog
17-02-2012, 15:29
Tim was against belts?! I can't imagine that.
My esteemed colleague Tim and self, like all skinny and weak people of a certain era, went through the 'beginner' phase of lifting.
That is to say we used to believe that belts/drugs/suits/comps/et al were the power lifting equivalent of buying a BMW 3 series, and that everyone should be lifting stark naked, and for good measure, in a semi conscious state of sleep deprivation and malnourishment -- just to prove it was "all me, bro."
We were wrong.
However much I hate them, BMW 3 series' are actually 'good' cars.
So it follows, that drugs and belts are cool.
I (and others before and since) seem to have escaped criticism for the ideological U-turn.
Not so, Timmaaaay.
plateau2
17-02-2012, 15:33
Everybody is entitled to change their mind on something
Basically, because Narc is so, SO vocal about his opinion on things and often has complete, unbelievable U-turns, his sheer hypocrisy needs highlighting more than others.
Hence, Narc's law
I don't see why anyone needed to try anything stronger after sampling the Tom ShillRoids.
plateau2
17-02-2012, 16:02
I don't see why anyone needed to try anything stronger after sampling the Tom ShillRoids.
I don't get it!?!
Started the weekend binge early?
I don't see why anyone needed to try anything stronger after sampling the Tom ShillRoids.
A relic from the affs forum days Dave. This guy came on offering "plant steroids" with no sides, unbelievable claims etc. Sure enough after a few people spent their hard earned on them and realised they did jack, he went to ground.
The Affs guys were left very red faced indeed.
Basically, because Narc is so, SO vocal about his opinion on things and often has complete, unbelievable U-turns, his sheer hypocrisy needs highlighting more than others.
Hence, Narc's law
Exactly.
Look, life is just like politics: if you are going to do / say / stand for something, then you best be able to defend it. You do this to the death, until a better opinion / method / paradigm comes along, then you ditch the old and get behind the new. If you're going to live your life in a certain way, then you should live for that way, with conviction, or you stand for nothing and amount to the same. Being open to change one's mind on something points to open-mindedness and an ability to change. Both laudable qualities. So in fact, whilst generally viewed as a character flaw, Narc's law is actually quite the opposite; it is the manifest embodiment of character itself.
Circumstances alter cases - that is the answer to the call of inconsistency. Lifted from my PhD.
Bench press
Drugs
BW exercises
Isolations, particularly curls
"Core" work
Eating healthy food
Being lean
Belts
Straps
Conditioning
Essentially it's only chin ups and personal hygiene left.
Bench press
Drugs
BW exercises
Isolations, particularly curls
"Core" work
Eating healthy food
Being lean
Belts
Straps
Conditioning
Essentially it's only chin ups and personal hygiene left.
sumo deadlift
chicken
powerlifting
squat suits
bench shirts
deadlift suits
Wilks
Saturday 18/2/12
Paused Bench - 100x3 / 120x1 / 140x1 / 150x2x2
Single Arm Cross Body Chest Press - 30x3x12
Suspended Inverted Row (feet on high box) - BW+15x4x8
Fallout - BWx3x10
Single Arm Suspended Inverted Row to Neck - BWx3x10
140 actually felt a bit shit today, but I thought I'd go for something anyway. Turned into a decent session.
XeP4u07L7Ps
GoldenArrow
18-02-2012, 12:55
sumo deadlift
chicken
powerlifting
squat suits
bench shirts
deadlift suits
Wilks
Socialising...
GoldenArrow
18-02-2012, 12:56
Decent bench, horrifying shorts :D
GoldenArrow
19-02-2012, 08:11
You already have B-)
Decent looking bench, Timmy.
You struggle with the lowering of the weight (the last 2'' of ROM). It looks as if you're almost dropping it. Try iso holds just on the chest (rather than letting it 'sink' in) slowly lowered and with a 2 second pause before you press to improve that. More tren will obviously help aswell, though. ;)
It's on purpose, mate. I perform a lot of lifts like that. Improves stretch reflex.
It's on purpose, mate. I perform a lot of lifts like that. Improves stretch reflex.
Agreed. I used to do it like that too, but when I actually strengthened up my weak area by doing the iso work needed rather than just relying on stretch reflex my bench jumped up 20kilos.
I don't need iso work; noone needs iso work.
plateau2
20-02-2012, 08:17
Decent bench, horrifying shorts :D
This x a million
plateau2
20-02-2012, 08:18
I don't need iso work; noone needs iso work.
LOL
Isometric not isolation, so maybe not deserving a LOL.
plateau2
20-02-2012, 10:02
Isometric not isolation, so maybe not deserving a LOL.
BOO for reading comprehension fail.
I thought it was a tongue in cheek narc's law comment
Tuesday 21/2/12
Squat - 80x15 / 90x15
Unilateral Hammer Strength Leg Press - 210x4x12
Paused Bench - 100x2 / 120x1 / 100x2x3
Inverted Row (feet on medium box) - BWx3x20
Felt like crap. Shit hurt. Went home.
Sorry to hear that dude. At least you're still ripped.
You know what I say makes sense
You know what I say makes sense
Which is?
My thesis is that if I were Tim I would consider modifying my training so as to place all the lower body work on one day.
JonnyJames
21-02-2012, 22:13
That does make sense.
Mike_Hawkins
22-02-2012, 10:00
Fair play for doing something yesterday even though ya felt shite. Bring on thursday and go mental!
Thursday 23/2/12
Deadlift - 150x1 / 190x1 / 230x1 / 262.5x2F3 / 190x12
Barbell Shrugs - 160x4x8
EZ Bar Curls - 37x12 / 10 / 8
Renegade Rows - BW+10x3x6
Back Extension - BW+15x25
Warm-ups felt half decent for the first DL session in a while, so I put a little weight on the bar. Not fantastic; not totally shit.
And some really strong Deads. PB territory?
plateau2
24-02-2012, 08:32
Strong deads and shrugs mate!
Cheers, Gents. Nah, Roars. That would be:
cGYMnCxeEgM&
Though I'm a few kg lighter again since then.
SomeOldDog
24-02-2012, 08:43
The 190x12 is ****ing nice.
Cheers, Gents. Nah, Roars. That would be:
cGYMnCxeEgM&
Though I'm a few kg lighter again since then.
I wasn't sure if I hated you or was just jealous, then I realised neither as this silly sumo stuff isn't a proper pull anyway :sniper:
I wasn't sure if I hated you or was just jealous, then I realised neither as this silly sumo stuff isn't a proper pull anyway :sniper:
Like! :035:
Conventional is a ****ing minging, retard's lift. Sumo is the only proper deadlift.
190x12 is easy, Rob. Just a wee back-off set. I am thinking I would like to give 200x20 a go at some point, for shits and giggles. That would be OK.
Conventional is a ****ing minging, retard's lift. Sumo is the only proper deadlift.
Narc's law of course.
Just a wee back-off set. I am thinking I would like to give 200x20 a go at some point, for shits and giggles. That would be OK.
Rememeber to breath if you do this. It would be a nice one tho. Also, make sure you video it if you do attempt it.
I did a pretty comfy 200x15 ages ago, when my pull was a little weaker. There were at least 2 or 3 reps left then, so I figure I'd have a decent shot at it now. Would / will suck big time though. Urgh.
SomeOldDog
24-02-2012, 13:50
Conventional is a ****ing minging, retard's lift. Sumo is the only proper deadlift.
190x12 is easy, Rob. Just a wee back-off set. I am thinking I would like to give 200x20 a go at some point, for shits and giggles. That would be OK.
Easy!
200x20 would be impressive. Not as impressive as half squatting the same weight for 15 reps though.
Not as impressive as half squatting the same weight for 15 reps though.
~~~~
Sunday 26/2/12
Military Press - 100x3x3
Push Press - 120x1 / 140x1 / 150x1
Suspended Inverted Row (feet on high box) - BW+20x3x6 / BWx15
Suspended Prone Triceps Extensions - BWx3x12
Fallouts - BWx3x10
Benched up toi 140kg but it felt shit and my shoulder hurt. Military felt pretty weak too, so rescued the session with a wee push press PR.
SomeOldDog
26-02-2012, 18:45
Tim, 150x1 is ill.
You and Larry will be pressing 5 plates in no time.
Seriously, though, good work man.
Cheers, dude. Oh **** yeah, obviously this means if I trained overhead for a while I'd do 250kg and have the strongest overhead in Europe.
Smashing the workouts mate, nice to see.
Timmy, good to see you smashed that 150 after you were winging that you weren't going to do it. You can thank me for making you do it.
Boom!!!!
JonnyJames
26-02-2012, 21:36
Tim, 150x1 is ill.
+1. Mighty.
1.5xbw push press is very very nice.
Also, remember that you could jerk like 210 now. You're probably the best overhead athlete in Western Europe.
Also, remember that you could jerk like 210 now. You're probably the best overhead athlete in Western Europe.
The best in Western Exeter?
I reckon I am definitely top three in Mount Pleasant.
I reckon I am definitely top three in Mount Pleasant.
I reckons that bloke opposite with teh camo shorts is a contender.
150 x 1 push press probably means you have 185 x 1 though, right?
plateau2
27-02-2012, 09:08
Big PP there bud
Tuesday 28/2/12
Squat - 120x8
Unilateral Hammer Strength Leg Press - 220x4x12
Paused Bench - 120x5x2
Inverted Row (feet on high box, and held at top) - BWx4x10
DB Cuban Rotation - 7.5x2x20
Squatting was retarded. Sort of felt like it maybe didn't hurt. Did.
Those leg presses kick my ****ing arse.
Not prepared to call it speed bench. We'll go with light-yet-weak-and-not-very-fast-but-couldn't-be-****ed-to-change-weights-and-didn't-really-care-bench.
Similarly, rows were done with just BW and pauses because I couldn't be ****ed to procure, or **** around with, a plate.
Randomly jumped on my home scales while I was getting up this morning. They are not the best, but they had me at 93.8kg!
Bang Bom Bang IN THE LIVER.
LWStrong
01-03-2012, 11:22
90kg superstar!
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 11:25
Randomly jumped on my home scales while I was getting up this morning. They are not the best, but they had me at 93.8kg!
you fat shit
:)
Mike_Hawkins
01-03-2012, 11:55
HA!
You still cruising, Tim? you must look pretty damn lean at that weight.
Still cruising, aye. Blast again soon though! Reasonably lean now, aye. Maybe 12-13%? Small though.
GoldenArrow
01-03-2012, 13:29
Has anyone in Exeter come off this year? (or last, for that matter...)
Lean!
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 13:32
10-11%?
you look miles better these days mate
**** being fat
also
you have no pecs :D
Hermione came off. Typically, he lost nothing from doing so, the ****.
Cheers. Would like another two or three percent off I think, long term. So I'm going to need to find another 10kg or so of LBM from somewhere if I want to stay in the 100s. Which I do. Clearly need tren.
Cheers, Rob. Don't think I'm 10% just yet. My shit is not exactly full on relaxed there. Aye, have to concede it is perhaps a better look than my 275lb days. Though just a bit small for my liking since the last 5kg or so went. And no, I never have had. I am going, yet again, to hammer the **** out of them with a load of gay shit when I blast again, but it probably won't make any ****ing difference.
10-11%?
Agreed going by that one pic.
I bet you could but some right good 'before and after' pics up now.
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 13:36
also, decent beard
Craig, did these a while (maybe 3 or 4%) ago:
http://www.iron-city.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1382&d=1324899133
http://www.iron-city.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1381&d=1324899104
Rob, booooooooooooooooooooom. Beard, like physique, has gone through bad times, but matured into something respectable these days.
plateau2
01-03-2012, 13:46
Looking sexy mofo! Massive traps, good delts and abs - shit pecs!!
BOOM!
GoldenArrow
01-03-2012, 13:50
Craig, did these a while (maybe 3 or 4%) ago:
http://www.iron-city.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1382&d=1324899133
http://www.iron-city.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1381&d=1324899104
Rob, booooooooooooooooooooom. Beard, like physique, has gone through bad times, but matured into something respectable these days.
can't be bothered right now, but begging for a
WEIGHT LOSS
Doesn't improve mood
caption style thing!
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 13:59
good job on committing to lose the flab
i am horrified by the tag "comdom eater" and the fact we have the same blue carharrt belt -- i'm going to bin my belt tonight
*shudder*
seriously though, good job
just diet and/or AAS or did you chuck in some CV?
if no CV-- it's very impressive
Great work, now you just need to post them on a bodybuilding website, claim you did it in 30 days unaided by roids, then push silly programs and vastly overpriced supplement all the while smashing tren and proclaiming your natty!
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 14:03
MASSIVE tube of colgate
by the looks of it, he's been using it for 'pokey bum wanks' and 'anal fissuring'
JonnyJames
01-03-2012, 14:07
I shall remember Tim telling Vinny and I the 'pokey bum wank' story, at full volume, in a McDonald's car park, for a very long time. I shall remember that the group of nearby 10 year olds who had been hanging on every word started chanting 'pokey bum wank' as we walked to the car forever.
I did not eat the condom, just some of the sperm inside it. Inadvertently.
Fear not: that belt is, IIRC, from Sainsbury's. Though the fact it could be mistaken for whatever piece of metro brand rubbish you're on about says it all really.
No cardio. Not as impressive as it might seem either though, really; losing fat is my body's raison d'être. I did most of the fat-loss off cycle. Gained back the lost LBM and strength on cycle. Only really the last 5% or so which I've gradually--and, to a large degree, inadvertently--dropped whilst on. But seriously, losing fat requires LITERALLY no effort for me. I just have to stop trying not to.
Colgate just looks massive because I am tiny, and because it is practically full as it never gets used, because I am a lazy, grubby ****.
plateau2
01-03-2012, 14:18
I did not eat the condom, just some of the sperm inside it. Inadvertently.
I don't want to know why, but at the same time I do...
Confusion.
use the search function, been told AT LEAST 4 times already
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 14:54
I did not eat the condom, just some of the sperm inside it. Inadvertently.
Fear not: that belt is, IIRC, from Sainsbury's. Though the fact it could be mistaken for whatever piece of metro brand rubbish you're on about says it all really.
No cardio. Not as impressive as it might seem either though, really; losing fat is my body's raison d'être. I did most of the fat-loss off cycle. Gained back the lost LBM and strength on cycle. Only really the last 5% or so which I've gradually--and, to a large degree, inadvertently--dropped whilst on. But seriously, losing fat requires LITERALLY no effort for me. I just have to stop trying not to.
Colgate just looks massive because I am tiny, and because it is practically full as it never gets used, because I am a lazy, grubby ****.
belt's a belt; i ID'd the brand purposefully so we could get a confirm on whether or not i wear the same clothes as people who ingest sperm :)
fair enough re the fat loss
you must be 666's favorite person
plateau2
01-03-2012, 15:01
use the search function, been told AT LEAST 4 times already
As above not sure I really want to know.
JonnyJames
01-03-2012, 15:04
you must be 666's favorite person
I believe I speak for Narc and Chi (and probably others) when I say that Ian should forget about being lean and just get up into the 300lb+ bracket, where he clearly belongs.
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 15:06
also tim, there's nothing more metro than using french accent when typing xxxx <<<metro kisses
Craig, did these a while (maybe 3 or 4%) ago:
http://www.iron-city.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1382&d=1324899133
http://www.iron-city.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1381&d=1324899104
Rob, booooooooooooooooooooom. Beard, like physique, has gone through bad times, but matured into something respectable these days.
Wow that's crazy. It looks as though you have gotten MUCH leaner while holding onto every bit of LBM.
Your a fat mess in pic 1. I bet you're glad you don't look like that anymore.
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 15:08
I believe I speak for Narc and Chi (and probably others) when I say that Ian should forget about being lean and just get up into the 300lb+ bracket, where he clearly belongs.
hehe, he'd only need to stop skipping lunch then
SomeOldDog
01-03-2012, 15:09
Wow that's crazy. It looks as though you have gotten MUCH leaner while holding onto every bit of LBM.
Your a fat mess in pic 1. I bet you're glad you don't look like that anymore.
ever the diplomat dude
JonnyJames
01-03-2012, 15:09
hehe, he'd only need to stop skipping lunch then
Exactly!
I think now is an appropriate time to pull this comment back from the past. Narc's Law FTMW:
You are missing out a very important third option; be fat, and stronger.
OMGZ NO's!! Not fat! I wont be able to fit in2 my new black and silver henleys teeshirt!
You are always referring to a 'decent' bodyweight as if that is definite and quantifiable figure agreed upon by all, but your idea of a decent bodyweight and mine are quite different things. You continually fail to realise that some of us aren't faggoty, mens health cover model wannabes and actually don't mind, or even prefer holding a bit of fat.
I don't want to be 200lbs at 10%, ****. THAT. SHIT. Why can you not accept that people may actually want to be ~300lbs at ~30% as a means to lifting as much as possible, for shits and giggles, because they prefer how it looks, and hell, frankly to actively dissociate themselves from pumper gaylords, crossfitters, beach muscle narcissists, pissants and general gym shitmunchers who think 220lbs lean is the height of physical achievement.
pic 1 screams MAN to me :038:
I think now is an appropriate time to pull this comment back from the past. Narc's Law FTMW:
Epic example
GoldenArrow
01-03-2012, 17:44
boom.
i believe i speak for narc and chi (and probably others) when i say that ian should forget about being lean and just get up into the 300lb+ bracket, where he clearly belongs.
yes johnny!!!!!
Mike_Hawkins
01-03-2012, 18:29
boom.
This is brilliant!!!
you must be 666's favorite person
I believe I speak for Narc and Chi (and probably others) when I say that Ian should forget about being lean and just get up into the 300lb+ bracket, where he clearly belongs.
hehe, he'd only need to stop skipping lunch then
yes johnny!!!!!
lol, ****s - especially Tim. 300 was shit tbh, I was even weaker then than I am now and had no more muscle. 300 at a bit of a lower BF% than I am now though would be ****ing badass.
leviathan
01-03-2012, 21:08
Narc's Law cracks me up.
Fair play though mate looking really good. Also 93.8kg makes your 150 push press even more impressive.
Lollerskates at a great deal of the above.
Cheers, dude. I guess that is one way to look at it. It's hard to feel good about anything when you fit into a medium tee shirt though.
JonnyJames
02-03-2012, 08:03
I shall have to make it my mission to be heavier than you, even if that means being as fat as you used to be.
plateau2
02-03-2012, 08:10
It's hard to feel good about anything when you fit into a medium tee shirt though.
Clearly need to get your pump on at least temporarily a medium will feel tight then.
Cheers, dude. I guess that is one way to look at it. It's hard to feel good about anything when you fit into a medium tee shirt though.
It could be worse: the t-shirt my friend bought me is for Age 13, and it's pretty baggy on me.
Mike_Hawkins
02-03-2012, 10:14
It could be worse: the t-shirt my friend bought me is for Age 13, and it's pretty baggy on me.
Yoda has a childs lightsaber...doesn't slow him down!
Yoda has a childs lightsaber...doesn't slow him down!
Too right! I'm still going to be small and nimble when I'm old and green!
Tim, what is stange about your current leaning down is that you appear significantly leaner and carrying more muscle than when you were at / near 90kg previously. Do you think during your GFH stage you added a decent amount of lbm? Or are you putting is mainly down to the couple of cycles?
Bit of both. No way I went from 90kg to 125kg without gaining some LBM, though I'll concede the balance was firmly in the favour of fat gain. I would say I gained two or three kg of LBM on each cycle, and lost one or two kg during each of the two main diets I did, without gear. I have a lot of info on my PC at home which I've kept over the years. Always measured BF% using navy method, for a consistent reference point. Though I think it's always been fairly accurate, too. Anyway, from recollection:
A good few years ago I was 83kg @ 17% = 69kg of LBM
A couple years ago, pre-gear, I was 125kg @ 35% = 81kg of LBM
*40kg of weight gain for 12kg of LBM, haha, boom!!!
Since then, LBM calculations have fluctuated from anywhere between 80kg and 85kg; however, I don't think one can conclude much from any of these fluctuations, as bodyweight will tend to be a little artificially high on a proper cycle, due to water weight, making it seem like you have more LBM than you do, and it can drop a little artificially low, deep into a period of protracted weightloss, making it seem like you have less LBM than you do, when as soon as you start eating again, 2 or 3kg returns in a week or two.
Discounting my 94kg weigh-in the other day--as this was done on my ropey home scales, asshole naked and first thing in the morning; whereas I usually weigh myself with at least breakfast in me--let's say I'm 96kg right now. The same bodyfat calculator currently has me at 13% dead, which equals 83.5kg of LBM. So a touch more than I was holding at 125kg, and probably about 12kg more than when I was last 90kg, at 20% odd.
Goal is 100kg at 10%, so still a good deal more work to do, really. 100@10 is a LOT bigger than 96@13, even if they sound somewhat similar. 6.5kg more LBM. A good couple more cycles yet. Doable though I think.
Mike_Hawkins
02-03-2012, 14:53
Whats the Navy method?
Just found it, a load of measurements into a formula yeah?
GoldenArrow
02-03-2012, 14:54
Seeing how big a....actually, I'll pass on that joke as someone on here is trying to get in IIRC :D
Aye, Mikey, that's it. Not much good for accurate, one-off measurements (though in my experience it's never too far out), but perfectly acceptable as a long-term, consistent marker of progress.
Mike_Hawkins
02-03-2012, 15:24
At some point I'll compare that to the bioelectrical impedance analysis kit we have at the gym and let ya know the results
Saturday 3/2/12
Push Press - 110x3 / 130x1 / 140x4
Military Press - 90x3x6
Suspended Inverted Row With Iso Hold - BWx4x10
Suspended Face Pull - BWx3x10
Single Arm Cross Body Chest Press - 30x3x12
Spead Eagle Situp - BWx3x12
Benched up to 120kg but shit didn't feel right, again, so I binned it, again.
Fairly ropey push pressing, but a PR.
HEHPpAB28ws
140x4 = 202.5x1 I suspect.
140x4 = 202.5x1 I suspect.
I would even say more TBF. LOLS.
Good shit Timmus.
Cook me some dinner on tues you shit.
The most impressive thing about that vid is the 80kg quarter squats behind you. Decent push pressing too...
Cheers, boys.
It's a date, Crystal.
PikeKing
03-03-2012, 17:54
if you cant put the weight down quietly its to heavy for you :euro:
Strong bastard!
Nice push press mate, and great pics too! looking good, almost bummable, but not quite.
I only get it up there so I can throw it down, Andy.
Cheers, Steve. Hopefully get to bummable stage soon.
plateau2
05-03-2012, 09:24
BIG push pressing there! 4th rep looked almost strict!
Some good pressing that. Tim! Massive arse too!
Cheers, mofos. Yeah, I noticed that about my arse too. Booty!
SomeOldDog
05-03-2012, 10:27
v nice
Tuesday 6/3/12
Piece of Shit Leg Press - 240x10 / 270x8 / 300x6 / 330x2x4 / 240x10
Paused Bench - 120x1 / 140x1 / 152.5x1 / 152.5xF / touch & go > 120x8
Pendlay Row - 100x4x6
****ing not squatting is ****ing pissing me ****ing off.
Bench felt all over the place. Left arm not playing ball. Couldn't get centred on the bench. **** knows what that's about.
plateau2
07-03-2012, 08:30
That sounds a bit like yesterdays bench session for me
SomeOldDog
07-03-2012, 09:28
Mate, at least you're not bitter about it. :)
Chin up, you're still a strong **** and it wont be long before it all goooood
I get grumpy when I can't squat.
You don't look like your ever happy from your pics anyway!
out of interest, do you go into these sessions knowing you're not going to squat or do you try and fail?
GoldenArrow
07-03-2012, 11:42
I get annoyed when I have to move, full stop :D
Bit of both. Tried for the last two sessions and stopped when it started hurting. Didn't stop in time last time round though and partially re-****ed it with 120****ingkg. It hurt benching again yesterday. If it hurts moving around in bed or putting trousers on, then I shouldn't be trying to ****ing squat on it, yet I do...
Thursday 8/3/12
Deadlift - 180x3 / 200x4x3 / 200x12
Barbell Shrugs - 135x4x12
EZ Bar Curls - 47x3x6
Renegade Rows - BW+5x3x6
Mikey Two
08-03-2012, 22:09
Gay curls...
Speed work. Was supposed to be GMs but the better part of me was not going to accept not deadlifting that evening, so...
Saturday 10/3/12
Military Press - 90x2x7 / 90x6
Inverted Row (feet on high box) - BW+10x4x12
Single Arm Cross Body Chest Press - 32.5x3x12
Cable Crossover - pin4x3x12
Rope Face Pull - pin8x3x12
Swiss Ball Tucks - BWx3x8
Bodyweight in the gym, under my usual weigh-in conditions: 96.3kg. About as, if not slightly higher than, expected.
Ramp back up to 500mg/wk + 'var starting at 50mg ed from today. Having continually lost bodyfat for the last 18-months and now finally being almost lean, I shall be increasing cals by about 500/day, mainly in the form of additional protein, and increasing the amount of hypertrophy work I do. The intention in the short term being to create some new LBM, albeit without gaining any fat back, and get as close as possible to that 100kg@10% goal.
I will also go back to benching once a week as, whilst I wasn't missing a beat for a while there, I am missing them constantly at present, my shoulder is grumbling and my shit just generally feels off. I will bring overhead work back in, in its place.
I have considered the issue of not being able to squat at present and concluded that half my training career has been spent not being able to train something, that being able to train everything at one particular time does not mean I'll be able to a week from then anyway, and that I may as well thus just crack on. I am hopeful of being able to squat again in around 4-weeks. In the meantime I can push, pull and hypertrophy my little arse off.
Also probably going to switch my bench day, or possibly even my whole training schedule, around, as all my training partners got old and suburban and can no longer be relied upon to show up on weekends and so I am too often left without a spot.
Finally, a quick, periodic check of the state of things at present reveals:
Morning bodyweight in shorts, oly shoes and tee shirt, on uni gym scales - 96.3kg
Gut at navel - 34 1/8"
RH Thigh - 26 1/4"
LH Arm - 17 1/8"
Neck at base - 17 1/4"
Skinfold, 2" away from, and in line with, appendectomy scar - 6mm
Navy bodyfat based on http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/library/blbodyfatcalculator.htm with height at 71" - 12.7%
Lean bodyweight - 84.07kg
Fat weight - 12.23kg
That skinfold measurement is down from 38mm the day I started dieting. Lollerskates.
That is all for now.
JonnyJames
10-03-2012, 12:25
Cool.
JonnyJames
10-03-2012, 12:32
Also probably going to switch my bench day, or possibly even my whole training schedule, around, as all my training partners got old and suburban and can no longer be relied upon to show up on weekends and so I am too often left without a spot.
As it happens, if this Joe guy sorts me out I shall be training in a more manly fashion - e.g. SQ, bench DL as a base - so should be able to help you out there.*
*Refusal to accept me as a spotter on competence grounds will not cause offence.
Us rural / country folk don't like to be associated with the suburban rif-raf thank you!
Thought Mikey was working Saturday? If I had known he wasn't I may have got off my arse.
Sorry I wasn't there dude. Had to train today instead because of whipping a gearbox off of a shed.
Mike_Hawkins
11-03-2012, 18:40
I was home for me bday!!
Sweet. It'll be interesting to see how much you get out of 50mg of Var as everybody insists it should be run at 80mg +
Shall bear that in mind, Johnny. Trialling a M/W/F next week anyway, when Simon will be in there.
I think it depends where you look. I've found plenty of people claiming far less, so I figured I'd start with that and see. Chances are of course that I'll get fed up of waiting after a week and just smack it up to 100.
Trialling a M/W/F next week anyway, when Simon will be in there.
But T/T/S is where it's at!
Mike_Hawkins
12-03-2012, 14:10
You will love monday nights at the gym mate...
plateau2
12-03-2012, 14:22
You will love monday nights at the gym mate...
He better be benching!
JonnyJames
12-03-2012, 14:30
You will love monday nights at the gym mate...
I predict a murder.
got any goals for lifts for this cycle tim?
It's always ****ing horrendous in there. Monday would be squat day.
I'm always reluctant to start spurting numbers out, Roydog. Who knows what kind of progress will be made. All I can say is I will be trying for as much as possible.
It's always ****ing horrendous in there. Monday would be squat day.
I'm always reluctant to start spurting numbers out, Roydog. Who knows what kind of progress will be made. All I can say is I will be trying for as much as possible.
so you're officially a bodybuilder now then?
Tuesday 13/3/12
Unilateral Hammer Strength Leg Press - 200x4x8
Military Press - 95x3x6
Suspended Inverted Row - BWx4x12
Seated Leg Press - stackx3x15 AMT reps
Fallout - BWx3x12
Here's a number for you, Royface: 120kg military press at <100kg bodyweight. That one's getting its ****ing shit ruined directly, fo' sho'.
JonnyJames
13-03-2012, 20:17
Here's a number for you, Royface: 120kg military press at <100kg bodyweight. That one's getting its ****ing shit ruined directly, fo' sho'.
Nice.
...AMT?
Amortization. Fast reversal with no lockout, basically. Hardcore bodybuilder shit because I'm a hardcore bodybuilder, obvs.
Mike_Hawkins
15-03-2012, 09:20
120 will be sweet!
Your av a recent pic, Tim?
Your av a recent pic, Tim?
I'd guess and say no
JonnyJames
15-03-2012, 14:27
No that's clearly from a couple of years ago. Is that the pit or the fridge? Or have I got the names wrong?
It's a random pic from the Fridge I found in my journal attachments. Probably about 2-years old, aye. At my fattest. It amused me and I was bored of looking at the old one.
Thursday 15/3/12
Paused Bench - 135x4 / 125x2 / 120x3x5
Gironda Press (AMT reps) - 70x2x15 / 70x13 / 60x15
Seated Cable Row - pin14x6x10 / two stage, scap retract to elbow flexion, with hold at each position > pin8x20
Face Pull - pin8x3x15
Renegade Row - BW+7x3x6
Shoulder just does not feel quite right and hurts off the chest with every heavy bench rep. Hopefully this is the primary reason my bench suddenly feels totally ****ed. Pushed it a little too hard for a little too long again.
I think a move away generally from constant, super-heavy, rep-grinding strength work at >85%, to totally gay, super-light bodybuilder shit could be just what my body needs right now. It will also assist with operation get-****ing-massive.
Gay as it was, I didn't actually hate that session, simply because I at least left feeling like I'd done some productive training for once, with intensity, not just hobbled my way through another pain-riddled mess. This in mind, you can expect to see some ****ing gay shit around here for a weeks as I feel like getting proper nasty on myself. Deadlift and overhead (just about) feel OK so these will be the primary strength work; all bets are off for the rest. If it doesn't hurt and it will make me massive, I'm ****ing doing it.
JonnyJames
15-03-2012, 20:00
This will no doubt be extremely interesting.
Looking forward to seeing some gay shit and you getting nasty with your self! There better be vids ;-)
What sort of lifts do you have in mind?
I am hoping by using the lightest weights possible in the most efficient ways I can actually dissipate some CNS fatigue and joint ****edness, whilst simultaneously absolutely ****ing ruining as much muscle tissue as possible. I really feel like my training has been lacking in intensity for a while now, partly due to the truly abysmal gym atmosphere, and partly due to being ****ing battered and not being able to train properly. I want to start leaving the gym on my ****ing hands and knees again and if I can't do this from savage heavy sessions right now, it'll have to be for other reasons...
Well, as I say, overhead and deadlift will be trained hard and heavy. Squatting remains out due to the adductor, but the volume on leg pressing is going to get ****ing disgusting. In fact, I'll probably have to do my overhead work first on those days, as I won't be standing too well afterwards, I'd venture. Those Gironda presses are brutal and require NO weight (I actually failed with 70kg today!), so they'll be staying. Side chest presses and flyes. LOTS of pulling in the form of seated cable rows, inverted rows, lat pulldowns and face pulls, for silly volume. I think the biggest shift will be the methods rather than the lifts - slow negatives, AMT reps, dropsets, VOLUME, supersets and trisets, nasty shit. Should be fun. Hopefully Simon can handle it, haha. Let's see how much LBM can be created in 12-weeks without fat gain, with a concerted effort.
JonnyJames
15-03-2012, 20:29
Let's!
GoldenArrow
15-03-2012, 20:45
Talk to Frank
...or, if you're not deciding to come off and have the above goals, Gav.
sweet dude. might steal some ideas from you!
JonnyJames
15-03-2012, 20:53
sweet dude. might steal some ideas from you!
Lol. I reckon we all will be, as per usual.
I am hoping by using the lightest weights possible in the most efficient ways I can actually dissipate some CNS fatigue and joint ****edness, whilst simultaneously absolutely ****ing ruining as much muscle tissue as possible. I really feel like my training has been lacking in intensity for a while now, partly due to the truly abysmal gym atmosphere, and partly due to being ****ing battered and not being able to train properly. I want to start leaving the gym on my ****ing hands and knees again and if I can't do this from savage heavy sessions right now, it'll have to be for other reasons...
Well, as I say, overhead and deadlift will be trained hard and heavy. Squatting remains out due to the adductor, but the volume on leg pressing is going to get ****ing disgusting. In fact, I'll probably have to do my overhead work first on those days, as I won't be standing too well afterwards, I'd venture. Those Gironda presses are brutal and require NO weight (I actually failed with 70kg today!), so they'll be staying. Side chest presses and flyes. LOTS of pulling in the form of seated cable rows, inverted rows, lat pulldowns and face pulls, for silly volume. I think the biggest shift will be the methods rather than the lifts - slow negatives, AMT reps, dropsets, VOLUME, supersets and trisets, nasty shit. Should be fun. Hopefully Simon can handle it, haha. Let's see how much LBM can be created in 12-weeks without fat gain, with a concerted effort.
Sounds good mate!
Will this be done over three days still, or will you be training more frequently now?
GoldenArrow
15-03-2012, 21:01
No bber trains 3 days a week (apart from maybe Mike Mentzer, and we saw how well that worked out!)
Pffft, what do those pricks know. I can't be ****ed training more than three times a week, even if it is mainly light gay shit.
Woohoo, more naked pics before and afters to be posted I assume!
The way this is going I can see you doing a bodybuilding show in the next yeat or two.
You read it here first folks :-D
The way this is going I can see you doing a bodybuilding show in the next yeat or two.
You read it here first folks :-D
dammit, I was thinking that but.didn't say it. it is narc's law afterall!
GoldenArrow
15-03-2012, 21:40
There won't be a shortage of volunteers to help him oil up, I'm sure
Tim on stage in little black budgie smugglers. You heard it here first folks!
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