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JonnyJames
25-02-2010, 19:28
Well, when you put it like that...
liking the band upright rows, i need to get back on them, get the traps up and running.
PikeKing
25-02-2010, 19:48
Should go at it full cocked
Then take the time to sort it instead of rushing in half-cocked and getting re-injured all the time!
Master should take heed of his apprentice's advice here.
It's just not as simple as that though. While I accept that I may on occasion have rushed in a little too quickly lately, it is difficult to sort something when you do not actually know what is wrong, or even when it is wrong and when it is not. One could sit around feeling ok but not being sure for the rest of one's life. It's a delicate balance to be achieved, between resting enough to convalesce, and training enough not to be sitting around getting weaker unnecessarily; I am equally as keen on managing both.
We all have stages when training goes to shit dude. I must have lost close to 4 months of decent training last year, you're now going through the same which will no doubt get sorted eventually.
+1 for full cock.... wait what are we talking about again?
Sorry the back is playing up again mate. Injuries suck, but happens to us all.
Sucks mate, hope you can get it sorted.
plateau2
26-02-2010, 09:36
It's just not as simple as that though. While I accept that I may on occasion have rushed in a little too quickly lately, it is difficult to sort something when you do not actually know what is wrong, or even when it is wrong and when it is not. One could sit around feeling ok but not being sure for the rest of one's life. It's a delicate balance to be achieved, between resting enough to convalesce, and training enough not to be sitting around getting weaker unnecessarily; I am equally as keen on managing both.
Makes perfect sense, and should do to anyone who has had anything other than a minor sprain/pull
LWStrong
26-02-2010, 11:36
It was a shame you had to abort the deadlifts last night mate, all WU's looked like they could have been cleaned....
Max squatting on tuesday then.....? :-)
Cheers duders. Don't tempt me, Paul.
Saturday 27/2/10
Paused Bench - 112.5x2 / 125x2 / 137.5x2 / touch & go > 120x8
BB Shrugs - 145x4x10
Tate Press - 30x4x6
DB Hammer Curls - 40x3x5
Renegade Rows - 22.5x3x6
DB Cubans - 7.5x2x10
nice benchings
where do you see your 1RM at?
also...where are the awesome feats of eats?
Cheers, would be disappointed if 150kg were not there now, that double was easy. Skipped shaker maker today, sat here eating Oreos after finishing a pack of Marylands though so it's all good.
Timmy you haven't mentioned our special friends bicep curls.
I'm just not sure it's possible to do justice to without video evidence, no-one would believe it.
Strong mate! Big hammer curls aswell.
Nice sesh again. How much have you put on your bench in the last wee while?
PikeKing
27-02-2010, 18:21
Nice session, upper body strength continues to go up.
Cheers dudes.
John, I pressed 135kg at a comp in June, 145kg at a comp in December and would estimate my current 1RM to be 150-152.5kg.
Tuesday 2/3/10
Squat - 180x3x6
DE Paused Bench - 100x6x3
BB Row From Floor - 100x3x12
Band Flyes - blue+redx3x6
Band Woodchops - bluex3x6
Squatting, albeit weak-ass pussy squatting. Belt-less as the strange erector spasms caused by using it are what started this whole latest episode of shit off, and I'm hyper-paranoid about a repeat episode. Not sure whether to try it again before the British, leave it until the British, or go belt-less there too and not try it again until afterwards. Also not sure whether to try deadlifting again beforehand. So generally speaking, I couldn't feel any less prepared even if I were dead. Also, tonight's session took two-and-a-half-hours.
No twinges though, good sign.
Those are not weak squats mate, especially considering that you haven't squatted properly in weeks.
Isn't 180kg for 3x6 a personal best anyways?
It is, Ian; it is.
Steve, they're gay as ****. And, yes, but a shit one.
Steve, they're gay as ****. And, yes, but a shit one.
At least you've made some progress mate. I'm sure once you start squatting more regularly again you'll be hitting bigger numbers very soon.
Looks decent to me, though you must be even lazier than I am if it took that long.
I haven't made any progress, that's the point; I could have done that months ago; I squatted a comfortable 180x8 at the end of September. I am lazier than everyone in the world, John.
Well you've had a totally raped back, what'd'ya expect, you'll surpass that in no time.
I expect it; that doesn't sop me being pissed off about it.
Hopefully so.
lol, stop being so emo about it you miserable ****. Glad you're back on it.
I would respond to your childish insult, but I am too busy alphabetising my Dashboard Confessional collection.
I would respond to your childish insult, but I am too busy alphabetising my Dashboard Confessional collection.:035:
PikeKing
02-03-2010, 21:39
Session looks positive to me tim, hopefully more of the same on the horizon
Yeah I don't get the self depricating sometimes, surely after the back issues 180 x 3 x 6 should only be seen as a positive.
LWStrong
02-03-2010, 22:02
Hey Tim, sorry about the 'no show' tonight. I am now back up in the midlands and will be travelling to Scotland to ski tomorrow for a few days. Random I know. It was a completely 'spur of the moment' type thing.
P-tothe-aul
Such is the life of a middle-class student.
It's not self-deprecating as such; I'm very happy to have gotten a productive session in. However I am also acutely aware of having made no progress on my squat or deadlift in six-months, manifested in last night's squatting
JumboTron9million
03-03-2010, 08:29
Session looks HIV positive to me tim, hopefully more of the same on the horizon
Bit harsh, wasn't that bad was it?
JonnyJames
03-03-2010, 08:30
It's not self-deprecating as such
Yes it is.
I'm very happy to have gotten a productive session in.
Then why were you moaning?
However I am also acutely aware of having made no progress on my squat or deadlift in six-months, manifested in last night's squatting
Becuase you were badly injured, but trained regardless, thus prolonging it.
Bit harsh, wasn't that bad was it?
Touche, bitch.
Yes it is.
Then why were you moaning?
Becuase you were badly injured, but trained regardless, thus prolonging it.
No it's not.
Because I would rather be squatting 200x3x6.
Pffft.
JonnyJames
03-03-2010, 09:29
Once again, an excellent signature choice.
Dashboard confessional. What is it? Never heard of it until today and now two unrelated sources have mentioned it.
In this case, ignorance is most definitely bliss.
JonnyJames
03-03-2010, 09:51
In this case, ignorance is most definitely bliss.
Amen.
Dashboard confessional. What is it? Never heard of it until today and now two unrelated sources have mentioned it.
Emo band
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JumboTron9million
03-03-2010, 10:46
Wow. There are no words for the awfulness of that.
Glad your squats went ok tim and you did not fire a disc cross the room or anything.
Once again, an excellent signature choice.
I have a lot of time for Marilyn Manson. It was a toss-up between that one and "I feel like someone who I wouldn't let my own daughter ****, and I also feel like someone who, if I was that daugther, I would want to **** more than anyone else."
Wow. There are no words for the awfulness of that.
Glad your squats went ok tim and you did not fire a disc cross the room or anything.
That's actually pretty manly for a Dashboard song.
Danke, me too!
JonnyJames
03-03-2010, 11:36
I have a lot of time for Marilyn Manson. It was a toss-up between that one and "I feel like someone who I wouldn't let my own daughter ****, and I also feel like someone who, if I was that daugther, I would want to **** more than anyone else."
I would appropriate that if it weren't so inappropriate.
thats such a better quote, the maralyn has the ball right on there.
in a place where media and being in is soo in (uni) im soo out of place with my training t-shirts and casual shirt mix.
Thursday 4/3/10
Bottom Position Good Morning - 100x2 / 115x2 / 125x2 / 135x2 / 145x2 / 155x2 / 165x2
Push Press - 100x2 / 115x1 / 130x5
Military Press - 90x7
Band Upright Row - doubled blue+redx3x8 / doubled bluex2x15
Renegade Row - 25x3x6
DB Cubans - 7.5x2x12
plateau2
04-03-2010, 19:04
Heavy good mornings and push presses there!
Kin hell i want ur push press :068:
Yeah that's pretty ridiculous, never seen PPs that heavy before.
Strong push and strict presses mate.
Your back feeling alright then?
Cheers brothers. Back is feeling a little more resilient, Sammy, though still a way away from alright. With no more set-backs it should be pretty good in another three to four weeks or so; the British will be the test.
the block
04-03-2010, 21:43
Great session oh stinky one.
Thank you, oh sweaty, fat one.
Saturday 6/3/10
Paused Bench - 140x8x1
BB Shrugs - 150x4x10
Tate Press - 30x3x9
Band Flyes - blue+redx3x7
DB Hammer Curls - 40x3x6
Band Face Pulls - doubled bluex3x12
Benching was terrible; took me six shitty reps to realise I was touching way too ****ing low, by which point I had totally raped my elbows and shoulders from all the grinders.
Monday 8/3/10
Squat - 160x2 / 180x2 / 200x2 / 210x2 / 200x2x3
DE Paused Bench - 105x6x3
BB Row From Floor - 110x3x10
Band Flyes - blue+redx3x7
Renegade Rows - 27.5x3x6
**** you, squat.
Strong squatting mate! How did they feel?
Cheers. Smooth and comfortable.
**** you, squat.
So how much did you lose on your squat?
To be fair, I chucked the belt on today, and it is possible I am now getting something out of it, so I could still have lost strength, nett.
i like how you didnt post you put the belt on.
nice work all the same mate, glad things are going the right way again.
Didn't really think anyone would care to know, and the few times I have used it so far it has made no ostensible difference.
squatting beautifully timmy
PikeKing
08-03-2010, 21:53
nice stuff tim
To be fair, I chucked the belt on today, and it is possible I am now getting something out of it, so I could still have lost strength, nett.
Didn't really think anyone would care to know, and the few times I have used it so far it has made no ostensible difference.
:cutup:
I imagine this is a massive confidence boost, that's two out of three looking promising. Do you think your going to be able to pull more than 180 on the day.
I think I should be able to pull without any issues by then. Whether I will manage anything near what I should is another question.
Amusingly, that squatting has set off the old deep chest pain I used to get, referred from my costal facet joint injury. I think it is just a minor irritation, though it does now hurt to take deep breaths, and illustrates nicely what an utterly hopeless **** I am.
Nice user title change; Chris, I presume?
plateau2
09-03-2010, 08:14
nice squatting
Amusingly, that squatting has set off the old deep chest pain I used to get, referred from my costal facet joint injury. I think it is just a minor irritation, though it does now hurt to take deep breaths, and illustrates nicely what an utterly hopeless **** I am.
You ever feel maybe you're a bit of a Kevin Nee? You've done an awesome job of getting from a skinny to swole, but maybe your naturally small frame just struggles with the stress it wasn't made for and you'll keep getting injured?
Having said that, being Kevin Nee would obviously be immense...
JonnyJames
09-03-2010, 09:15
Bene fecit, Narcus Magnus.
Have fun in America! I'm expecting you to come back at least a stone heavier.
I'm expecting you to come back at least a stone heavier.
Not with the miniscule amounts he eats!
JonnyJames
09-03-2010, 09:42
I didn't say it was a realistic expectation...
You ever feel maybe you're a bit of a Kevin Nee? You've done an awesome job of getting from a skinny to swole, but maybe your naturally small frame just struggles with the stress it wasn't made for and you'll keep getting injured?
Having said that, being Kevin Nee would obviously be immense...
My body certainly wasn't designed to be big and strong, but I think the weight on the bar is the predominant factor not the weight on the body. The only issue with the bodyweight as I see it is the decreased mobility / flexibility which can cause problems; but I'd also suggest this may be somewhat offset by the fact that, as a bigger person, I am a little more resilient. None of my injuries so far have really been all that serious to be honest, and most of them were caused by events training, of which I will only be doing as much as I need to keep my hand in for the foreseeable future.
the block
09-03-2010, 11:38
My body certainly wasn't designed to be big and strong, but I think the weight on the bar is the predominant factor not the weight on the body. The only issue with the bodyweight as I see it is the decreased mobility / flexibility which can cause problems; but I'd also suggest this may be somewhat offset by the fact that, as a bigger person, I am a little more resilient. None of my injuries so far have really been all that serious to be honest, and most of them were caused by events training, of which I will only be doing as much as I need to keep my hand in for the foreseeable future.
+ demands on the heart are also increased. Stuff like that is more concerning for me. Some of this ideal bodyweight dogma is crap though.
Well, possibly, but I was purely talking in relation to my predisposition for getting injured. I personally couldn't give much of a crap about heart health.
I wasn't saying the bw was an issue, I was suggesting the skeleton and connective tissues of a 10 stone man might be struggling with lifting of a 20 stone man and was wondering if anything could help what might be your weak link; ultra-high reps for tendons, extra calcium for your bones... I dunno if there even is anything that can help. Just saying it seems like the natural (not in a roidz sense) freaks like Pfister or Hollands rarely seem to get hurt whereas folk like Nee seem to always draw the short straw and maybe it's something to address as well as just mass mass mass.
Yeah, I would agree with that completely, unfortunately including the bit about not knowing whether there is anything I can do about it.
Pfister is not a good example here as he's been complaining a lot over the years that he has problems with his back.
Well they all have niggles, freak or otherwise - didn't affect him enough to stop him being the strongest man in the world a couple of years ago!
Exactly! Everyone get’s injured, weather they were initially small like Narc or a big freak like Pfister. Just because Pfister is naturally bigger deosn’t neccesarily mean he is less likely to get injured. We know this isn’t true hence why I said he isn’t the best example here.
JumboTron9million
09-03-2010, 12:26
Born Mutants Vs Made Mutants...
Born mutants have greater survivability but made mutants tend to know a shit load more about diet, training etc. Either can win.
No I think that makes him a perfect example of my point - he gets one injury, he still wins WSM. Naturally smaller dude gets a few injuries a year and has to pull out of practically every event you see him in. And, sadly because I love his attititude, probably never will win because of it.
Born Mutants Vs Made Mutants...
Born mutants have greater survivability but made mutants tend to know a shit load more about diet, training etc. Either can win.
And sometimes desire - every time I see Terry Hollands compete I wish he had 50% of Kevin Nee's will to win.
Got to love a strongman who has a habit of passing out mid competition
Yup; there are three kinds of strength athlete as I see it:
Genetic - Naturally strong and huge, make stupid progress. Mong strength, often poor technique. Because it comes easily to them they tend not to value what they achieve as much, don't train either as hard or as smart as they could and think nothing of taking time off, losing a little strength here and there to have to earn back later. Rarely achieve to their best ability. Example: Hollands.
Cerebral - Not genetically gifted, but have a lot of heart and actually think about what they are doing. Tend to have better technique as they'll never get there with brute strength alone. Achievements are given far greater value due to the amount of work that went into them. Train harder and smarter because they have to. Progress slowly but generally always moving forwards and often eventually overtake the genetic guys in the long run. Fewer tend to make it to elite level though, especially in strongman. Example: Ahola
Genetic-Cerebral - Best of both worlds, born champions. Example: Pudzianowski.
+ demands on the heart are also increased. Stuff like that is more concerning for me. Some of this ideal bodyweight dogma is crap though.
It's not dogma imo, we're very similar genetically to what we've always been. That's why freaks like Hollands and Psifter are exactly that, it's also why you don't see hardly any natural BB'ers over 170 - 190lb. Made mutants are waaay more prevelant than given credit for as drugs (over the counter or otherwise) are very easy to get hold of these days.
Yup; there are three kinds of strength athlete as I see it:
Genetic - Naturally strong and huge, make stupid progress. Mong strength, often poor technique. Because it comes easily to them they tend not to value what they achieve as much, don't train either as hard or as smart as they could and think nothing of taking time off, losing a little strength here and there to have to earn back later. Rarely achieve to their best ability. Example: Hollands.
Cerebral - Not genetically gifted, but have a lot of heart and actually think about what they are doing. Tend to have better technique as they'll never get there with brute strength alone. Achievements are given far greater value due to the amount of work that went into them. Train harder and smarter because they have to. Progress slowly but generally always moving forwards and often eventually overtake the genetic guys in the long run. Fewer tend to make it to elite level though, especially in strongman. Example: Ahola
Genetic-Cerebral - Best of both worlds, born champions. Example: Pudzianowski.
Nice summary Tim.
No I think that makes him a perfect example of my point - he gets one injury, he still wins WSM. Naturally smaller dude gets a few injuries a year and has to pull out of practically every event you see him in. And, sadly because I love his attititude, probably never will win because of it.
I take it you're talking about Kevin Nee at the end there? if so he is just one person. Maybe he's just injury prone (Regardless of his natural size) or hasn't been training sensibly/not warming up properly for a comp? At the end of the day a bicep tear is not that uncommon in strongman either.
For every 'small' dude out there that gets injured there's a 'big' dude suffering with just as many injuries.
Another important point to make about Kevin Nee is he got into Weight training & strongman at a very young age. It's no surprise really to see injurys happening when his body wasn't fully devloped yet.
plateau2
09-03-2010, 13:58
Another important point to make about Kevin Nee is he got into Weight training & strongman at a very young age. It's no surprise really to see injurys happening when his body wasn't fully devloped yet.
The point about Kevin Nee is he is one individual and we should stop short in making any conclusions about anything based on a sample of one...
plenty of east european OLs start early.
Jarek Dymek? Not that big a guy, few bicep tears iirc, regularly needs oxygen after events?
Jarek Dymek? Not that big a guy, few bicep tears iirc, regularly needs oxygen after events?
Laurence Shahlaei - Bicep tear
Tarmo Mitt - Bicep tear
Dave Ostlund - Bicep tear
Stefan Solvi Petursson - Bicep tear
Big Z - Ruptured Ligaments in both knees
Oli Thompson - Bicep tear
Pfister - Back injury
Poundstone - Back injury
All of the above are big guys with body wieghts close to or over 150kg (not sure about Oli) and as you can see most of them have torn their biceps just like Kevin Nee and Jarek Dymek.
plateau2
10-03-2010, 08:13
Jarek Dymek? Not that big a guy, few bicep tears iirc, regularly needs oxygen after events?
Isn't he like 40?
plateau2
10-03-2010, 08:14
Laurence Shahlaei - Bicep tear
Tarmo Mitt - Bicep tear
Dave Ostlund - Bicep tear
Stefan Solvi Petursson - Bicep tear
Big Z - Ruptured Ligaments in both knees
Oli Thompson - Bicep tear
Pfister - Back injury
Poundstone - Back injury
All of the above are big guys with body wieghts close to or over 150kg (not sure about Oli) and as you can see most of them have torn their biceps just like Kevin Nee and Jarek Dymek.
So we are happy saying that SM often tear biceps... Or that both "small" and big SM tear biceps?
most of those tears come from an activity replicating the deadlift; cleaning an axle, flipping a tyre and deadlifting. concluding deadlifting is bad and you shouldnt do it, if you do, dont drop the weights and dont go over 140k.
So we are happy saying that SM often tear biceps... Or that both "small" and big SM tear biceps?Amongst PLers at least, quite a few people have told me that the only people they've seen tear biceps were using. I don't know how much truth there is to that.
but then could that be related to the weight required to tear the bicep. ive never heard of a tear coming from a 250 pull but always in the upper 300s or from a jerky clean (im talking of kevins axle clean at last years viking challenge) in the upper 100's. movements with such weight would usually require a bit of chemical enhancement.
plateau2
10-03-2010, 08:54
Amongst PLers at least, quite a few people have told me that the only people they've seen tear biceps were using. I don't know how much truth there is to that.
I have heard this from BBs that muscles become stronger and larger but not connectivity tissue etc. But as you say how much of this is "bro science"...
How many, if any of the top SM do we think are clean? My suspicion is none, but the odd freak like psifter or hollands could be as they're just massive anyway. Obviously Pudz is drugged to the eyeballs i was just wondering about the rest of the field.
are you seriously suggesting Hollands is clean?
but then could that be related to the weight required to tear the bicep. ive never heard of a tear coming from a 250 pull but always in the upper 300s or from a jerky clean (im talking of kevins axle clean at last years viking challenge) in the upper 100's. movements with such weight would usually require a bit of chemical enhancement.
I have heard this from BBs that muscles become stronger and larger but not connectivity tissue etc. But as you say how much of this is "bro science"...
Yeah that's what I've been told as well Plat, but I have no idea how much is down to the weight used and how much is the drugs.
Pfister has claimed to be clean many times; he even made noises about testing everyone at WSM last year when he was hosting it in Virginia. A lot of people claim Felix is clean, though I have heard whispers claiming knowledge to the contrary. Savickas claimed to be lifetime drug-free in an interview on Lithuanian television. I personally believe they have all been using since six-years-old and if they hadn't been I'd be stronger than them.
plateau2
10-03-2010, 09:26
are you seriously suggesting Hollands is clean?
Whatever he's on didn't effect his cardio on the plane pulling!
Pfister has claimed to be clean many times; he even made noises about testing everyone at WSM last year when he was hosting it in Virginia. A lot of people claim Felix is clean, though I have heard whispers claiming knowledge to the contrary. Savickas claimed to be lifetime drug-free in an interview on Lithuanian television. I personally believe they have all been using since six-years-old and if they hadn't been I'd be stronger than them.Haha, imagine if they actually did that. It'd be like that BB show in Belgium (I think) where testers turned up and all the contestants ran away.
are you seriously suggesting Hollands is clean?
Check this thread out on Sugden
http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/The-evolution-of-strongman-5483/8
Hollands says he was clean for WSM 2005 but only started using after that.
plateau2
10-03-2010, 12:47
Check this thread out on Sugden
http://www.sugdenbarbell.co.uk/forum/The-evolution-of-strongman-5483/8
Hollands says he was clean for WSM 2005 but only started using after that.
Wow! Must admit I am surprised.
Wednesday 10/3/10
Good Morning - tensioned greens (pin 4) + 80x3 / 90x3 / 100x3 / 110x3x3
Band Upright Row - bluex4x12
Band Pushdown - doubled blue x 15 / 15 / 12 / 10
DB Hammer Curl - greenx3x12
DB Side Bends - 45x3x7
Band Pullaparts - bluex3x15
DB Cuban Rotation - 10x3x5
Top sets of good mornings were bang on, lots of strain right through the movement, nice. Chest pain still there, and overhead work has in the past turned minor chest pain into full-blown ****ed-up rib, so decided to skip it. Impossible to overstate how ****ed my left wrist feels, that probably wouldn't have stood up to OH work anyway. So basically just GMs and teh bodybuildingz with teh bandz. Off to the states tomorrow for a week, no training now until next Thursday, at which point it will be ten days to the British.
What are you planning on doing at the British? All 3 events or just squats and bench?
Singles has been and gone mate; full power, should be good to go for then I reckon, with a bit of luck.
Expectations / prediction on numbers?
Would be disappointed not to squat 220kg, 150kg bench should be there now, deadlift is a tricky one to call given the time off; having pulled 245x2x3 and 255x2 a few months back, and usually deadlifting 50kg more than I squat in comps, I'd like 270kg. But I'd be happy with 265kg and I'd take 260kg given recent troubles, anything less would piss me off a bit though. Having said that the only session I have managed to get in between injuries since the 255x2, was 230x3x2 in early January, which was hard, so confidence is not high!
Dont forget my presi .
Nice t-shirt always goes down well :thumbup:
Bon voyage you smelly bastard. What part of the US are you off to?
I'll get you an 'I killed JR' tee-shirt, Will, haha.
John; LA, San Diego, Vegas. Unless I ditch Vegas and have a Mexican day trip, we'll see.
Las Vegas? You can't go there and not go to 'Average Broz' gym mate!!
Haha, is that where it is? Might have to pop in and show them how a real man trains.
timmy, when are you off? I'm going to San Fran, Vegas, Phoenix and Washington in 11 days
EDIT: i just read the last page. Good. Wouldn't want you near me while I'm out there. Enjoy the eats bretherin!
Haha, is that where it is? Might have to pop in and show them how a real man trains.
Yep. LOL!!! I remember John Broz saying somewhere he allows people to come in for one off sessions if they are visiting the area or something. Probably worth dropping him an email , i'm sure you could pick up plenty of tech advice for overheads and squats, new training ideas and so on.
Don't even dream of ditching Vegas - my favourite place on Earth, it's immense!
Dude I've heard Tijuana is a dumping ground and is nothing lke the real Mexico. Stick to The Vegas
Don't ditch Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_show) :veg:
Timmy has 'Rob me' written all over his bearded face...
I'm much lookinf forward to a Timmy rant on how fat & stupid americans are.
I'm much lookinf forward to a Timmy rant on how fat & stupid americans are.
or how well he fits in...
Nah - they can do justice to a buffet!
or how well he fits in...:flamethrowingsmiley
have a good trip matey :023:
plateau2
12-03-2010, 08:55
Aye, let me know where you go as should be doing a west coast drive next year!
Aye, let me know where you go as should be doing a west coast drive next year!
Come June I'm driving from San Fran to Vegas via the coast so will report
plateau2
12-03-2010, 20:11
Come June I'm driving from San Fran to Vegas via the coast so will report
Good man, thanks
Thursday 18/3/10
DE Squat - 140x6x3
DE Paused Bench - 105x6x3
BB Row From Floor - 100x5 / 120x5 / 130x2x5 / 110x12
Band Flyes - blue+redx3x6
Band Woodchop - bluex3x6
Jet-lagged training for the lose. Was hoping to squat heavy but rib is still far from happy and particularly dislikes squatting, so kept it light. Felt pretty weak and slow throughout the session, as expected; managed to lose 7lbs while I was away so need to get my bloat back on pronto.
PikeKing
18-03-2010, 19:33
good to have you back tim, good trip?
how do you feel after the short break from training?
oh yeah
skinny!
You lost half a stone - in AMERICA!? You are a massive homosexual.
You lost half a stone - in AMERICA!? You are a massive homosexual.
Homosexuality confirmed. Even I put weight on in North America.
good to have you back tim, good trip?
how do you feel after the short break from training?
oh yeah
skinny!
Cheers dude. Not bad, not bad.
I feel skinny and weak!
I ate nothing but cheeseburgers and vanilla shakes the whole time, but yes, I still lost weight; I always do.
Any ludicrous eating on offer though? Trip details? A rant about Americans would be a nice welcome back...
Tim did you shag any hot cheerleaders? If so, i will excuse the weight loss. If not, you are the world's biggest gaylord.
Any ludicrous eating on offer though? Trip details? A rant about Americans would be a nice welcome back...
I concur, please write up a 'Tim special' about the Americans.
kinkymisspinky
18-03-2010, 23:16
Tim, you're a big gaylord. You'd better start eating more before you waste away.
timmy you are a prize faggot, hope you had a good trip!
plateau2
19-03-2010, 08:44
You lost half a stone - in AMERICA!? You are a massive homosexual.
I lost about 8 kg in 2 weeks in Florida! Dave does not like eating 3 meals a day...
Saturday 20/3/10
Paused Bench - 100x3 / 117.5x3 / 135x2
Good Morning - 125x3x6
BB Shrugs - 155x4x10
Band Pushdown - doubled bluex3x15
Renegade Row - 30x3x6
DB Cuban - 10x2x8
My front delts felt like shit just warming up with the bar; didn't think it would be a problem having trained speed bench on Thursday but evidently it ****s me up more than I thought. Couple of pounds back on. Double Caramac shake post-workout.
Have you not done 140x2 before??!!
What's the plan for the comp mate? 140 opener, 150, 155?
I did 137.5x2 a couple weeks back. Today was obviously supposed to be a triple, but as I say my front delts felt totally ****ed and I didn't even attempt the third as I knew it wasn't there. Probably 135, 145, 150; 155 ain't there.
plateau2
21-03-2010, 20:24
DOMs as a result of the time off?
No, as a result of benching heavy two days after speed bench, which I don't normally do.
Tuesday 23/3/10
DE Paused Bench - 105x6x3
BB Row From Floor - 132.5x4x4
Band Flyes - red+bluex3x7
Band Woodchop - bluex3x6
Rib is improving, but hates even light squats, so decided to leave them in the interests of possibly being semi-fit for Sunday.
Speed bench felt slow and shit.
I am still skinny.
Not sure if you've answered this already, but what numbers are you hoping to get on Sunday?
Reluctant to put anything in writing as it will only serve to augment any disappointment should I fail to meet my expectations. That, and training has been so ****ed lately that I'm really not sure what I'm capable of right now.
good luck on sunday mate. im sure you'll do well regardless. hugs and kisses
Not taking a break this week before the comp?
Let's wait and see what you lift on Sunday before deciding that.
JumboTron9million
25-03-2010, 08:53
Lift well stinky one.
Hah. Touché, Ian.
Cheers, Gav.
Thursday 25/3/10
Military Press - 95x1 / 107.5x1 / 90x3
BB Shrugs - 160x4x8
DB Hammer Curl - 40x3x6
Band Pullaparts - bluex3x20
Scap Push Up - BWx30
DB Cuban - 10x12
Total shit. Military was supposed to be 107.5x2x2, as it was the single alone was murder. Strength is definitely down. Bodyweight is still down below two ****ing seventy. Rib is still not right; hurts just unracking and standing with 45kg on my back. I need shorter hair, a longer beard, 300lb bodyweight, a 700+ total, more money, less work and my own place with a garage gym and I need them all ****ing NOW.
get the bic out, you know it makes sense!
Good luck sunday cocker :cutup:
Good luck you lovable hunk of stentch.
Kick some arse you fat miserable ****.
JonnyJames
27-03-2010, 16:35
Good luck Timmy!
a) Win.
b) Don't ****ing kill yourself in the process
ego tui discupulus salutamo
All the best for today; hope you're still in one piece at the end of it!
Would be hard-pressed to imagine a way in which today could have gone worse. Singularly the shittest display of my value as a human ever.
ouch! how many lifts did you get in, did you make it out onto the platform? did vinny make you receive?
Was the bench ok? PB there,surely?
Bench was terrible. Everything was terrible.
Should have taken last week off :ph34r:
Seriously, how'd you do?
LWStrong
28-03-2010, 20:36
Unlucky today mate, you were knackerd. Still, you didn't get out-squatted by a girl. That would be really ****ing shit.
Hah, thanks Paul. Got any links pics or vids of this gym then?
post the numbers you fat fag
My guess - 195, 147.5, 245.
Am i correct to within a few kg?
195!
205 / 215f
135 / 140f / 140
240 / 265f
so were they all out fails or technicalities?
body hold up?
Fails. Weak. Shit.
Somewhat. Rib doesn't hurt, provided I don't breathe.
LWStrong
28-03-2010, 21:58
http://sport.exeter.ac.uk/facilities/gyms/
Gym link.
I jusy had a browse at costs and think you'd be looking at paying £23 per month. That doesn't sound too bad (I could have ****ed up though, I'm tired and got beaten by a girl).
Paul
Can't win 'em all + other assorted motivational cliches. At least you didn't bomb and you're still pretty much in one piece.
You got any other comps coming up?
Positive Points:
1.) You managed to put your socks on without looking like you were going to die
2.) You didn't get beat by a girl
3.) You actually totalled
4.) You still qualified for the Worlds
5.) You no never to stay at a Premier Inn again
Negative Points:
1.) You still squat less than the Vinny
Yeah at least you totalled and qualified, got a chance to make amends later in the year.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 08:09
I feel I should point out that you told me on Thursday 'All I want to do is qualify for the world's without dying.'
You've qualified, you're not dead, you have 8 months to sort your shit out. It all seems pretty much the best you could have hoped for, considering.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 08:29
Also, may I ask why the uni gym is being bandied about? It'll be busier, and more twat-filled, than b2k!
JumboTron9million
29-03-2010, 10:46
Mission accomplished.
Next comp is the IAWA British all-round on June 5th, JB, nothing serious. I may do the IAWA South Downs Strongman on June 19th also, haven't decided yet. Plus there may be another BDFPA South West mid-year PL comp around the same time which, if it happens, I may do also.
I think I qualified. Only by virtue of there being hardly anyone in my weight & age class if so though. And only in the 125s, which means I can't move up into the 145s as I would like to, but instead have to remain skinny like a pussy until November.
Apparently John, the uni gym has two power racks, two lifting platforms, bumper plates, straight bars, a Texas Power Bar on order, a mint bench, DBs up to 50kg in 2.5kg jumps plus some 55s and 60s on order, is cheaper and actually has less twats than you would think.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 13:17
I had heard they had revamped it; wasn't aware of quite how much. Just a shame about the location.
Guess I'll have to become a body builder. :011:
You already are a bodybuilder, look at your avatar.
It is only an idea at this stage. We are thinking about having a trial session there tomorrow to check it out. If it did prove to be better than B2K though we will have just have to come up with a solution that suits everyone, I am sure there will be one.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 13:25
Yeah, Vinny just texted me. I don't know what it could be though, I suppose I could get a lift with one of you when I finish at 5 but that's only every other week.
Can i meet you at the train station tomorrow night please Timmy and come try it out with you? I wanna bench.
When do you finish the rest of the time, John?
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 13:29
6.
Well, Crystal is quite often in later than us, perhaps he could pick you up on his way past. Where do you work, geographically I mean?
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 13:34
Dix's field - where Crystal parks when we hit up Nando's, in fact. A mere 5 minutes walk from b2k. :019:
Can i meet you at the train station tomorrow night please Timmy and come try it out with you? I wanna bench.
Cool, should be testing the uni gym providing we can get things sorted with the dude who was going to get us in and show us round, otherwise may be b2k, be at the station for 5:30 either way.
Dix's field - where Crystal parks when we hit up Nando's, in fact. A mere 5 minutes walk from b2k. :019:
Five minute walk to a shit gym. If the uni gym is as good as it sounds then the extra effort will be worth it. Presume working hours cannot be adjusted?
Ok mate i'll be there 5:30.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 13:54
Five minute walk to a shit gym. If the uni gym is as good as it sounds then the extra effort will be worth it. Presume working hours cannot be adjusted?
Not without going part time or with some sort of vital (i.e. medical, familial) reason. 'To go to a different gym' won't really cut it!
At the end of the day, it may be further from work but it's the same distance from my house, if not a wee bit closer. It may be a case of just shuffling things round a little. I'm sure I'm just being reactionary and will take some time to get used to the idea.
You are almost certainly being reactionary. I would think that deadlifting off a lifting platform with a straight bar and bumper plates and no bodybuilders around, as opposed to standing on oly plates, pulling a banana bar with no knurling off foam pads, squeezed into any space you can find that the bodybuilders aren't using for something stupid, would help you get used to the idea pretty fast.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 14:08
Yes. And it does, even before the fact. So much so that I just laid it out to my manager and he said that if I write a formal letter to HR explaining my reasons they'll look at putting me on 9-5 for Tuesday and Thursday.
Fingers crossed!
Sweeeeeeet! Just hold fire until we check the place out then and see if the rumours are true, then we can all make a decision and figure out a plan. When do you finish tomorrow? If we do go and check it out do you want to come? The more of us the better in many ways as we can see first-hand if there are going to be any problems with a massive group of powerlifters taking up both racks and the bench; think it is Vinny, Simon, You? Crystal, Sam, Paul and me tomorrow, all either squatting or benching, or both.
JonnyJames
29-03-2010, 14:22
Yes!
I finish at 5.
Give me a lift? :angel:
Aye. Just need to make sure we are definitely going. Will let you know.
Think it's defo on the cards innum? Just spoke to his lordship (Vinny) on the phone.
Fails. Weak. Shit.
Somewhat. Rib doesn't hurt, provided I don't breathe.
Nevermind mate. You know you have the strength to lift a lot more than what you did, you just had a bad day by the sounds of it. At least you qualified, that's the main thing aye.
Can't make it tomorrow mate . Maybe some other time?
Yes!
I finish at 5.
Give me a lift? :angel:
Shit started writing a reply then the missus gave me the 5 second count to get shoes on for the weekly shop soz.
I'll still give you a lift if his swoleness can't.
Right, it's on. John, I can meet you for about 5:20 - 5:25, where do you want that to be?
JonnyJames
30-03-2010, 08:29
Somewhere in Southernay?
I have put aside/resolved my misgivings but I do have to sound one note of caution...
Isn't it the Easter break? We can't gauge how busy it is or will be unless we go during term time. I recall it being like an ant's nest.
Outside the church opposite the new car park?
A good point well made.
JonnyJames
30-03-2010, 08:59
Ok. Outside the church, 20 past or so.
No training yesterday as I was too busy staggering from bed to toilet, evacuating bodily fluids from front and back. Can only assume it was a physiological reaction to spending two whole days with Vinny.
No training yesterday as I was too busy staggering from bed to toilet, evacuating bodily fluids from front and back. Can only assume it was a physiological reaction to spending two whole days with Vinny.
Just a shame you didn't catch my ability to actually lift weight over the two days.
lol, great come back Vinny!
lol, great come back Vinny!+1, that quite literally made me lol.
Food posioning mate? Sucks.
Narc is allergic to the world.
Crystal is allergic to training.
Not sure if it was food poisoning or a virus or what. Either way it ****ed me right up and I am now down to a truly heinous 266lbs.
Thursday 1/4/10
Good Morning - 127.5x3x6
Pendlay Row - 140x4x2 / 120x10
Rope Pushdowns - 45x5 / 50x5 / 55x3x5
Band Face Pulls - doubled bluex3x15
Side Plank - 3 sets
****ing rib is hurting in the back now too, even just unracking an empty bar. ****ing shitbag.
Skinny bitch!
Strong rows though.
I too had rib pain in the back recently, ****ing very painful, especially when un-racking/re-racking a bar. Foam rolling and/or stretching didn't help much. If the injury is anything like the one I had then you're going to just have to wait for the pain to go away by it's self as there's no much else you can do tbh.
Intercostal muscle issue i reckon mate. Me and Will get it sometimes on squats.
When i had a rugby injury they told me the pain of a cracked rib and an injury to an intercostal muscle were comparable and i would only know which one it was would be through the time of recovery. 4-6 weeks muscle, 8-12 weeks rib.
Saturday 3/4/10
Bench (touch & go) - 100x12-12-11
BB Shrugs (with iso hold) - 120x4x12
DB Hammer Curls - 40x3x7
Band Flyes - bluex3x12
Band Pushdowns - doubled bluex15-12
DB Cubans - 10x15
Pussy.
Nice stuff son.
Where is my t-shirt u reptile ? :011:
LWStrong
03-04-2010, 16:20
Bench.
Shrugs.
Curls.
Flyes.
Push downs.
Cubans.
**** me miss world, you have been busy! :035:
PikeKing
03-04-2010, 16:40
Crap benching you skinny underfed ****
Sorry Will. What can I say; I spent all my money over there on cheeseburgers and Payday bars.
Paul, Saturday is for teh bodybuildingz. Gotta be done if you want to weigh more than a teenage female distance swimmer.
Andy, word. Working on the underfed bit though; had a milkshake with two Wham bars and two Refresher bars post-workout, and have just got back from pizza and ice-cream with the fat druggie.
LWStrong
03-04-2010, 17:28
You told me Arnold was weak/gay (something else because he was never obese, sorry, swole). I told you he used to do powerlifting and was pretty strong. You didn't trust my word noises.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=348046&d=1163709571
Go sit on that and swivel.
Some full comp results.. (From http://stronglifts.com/forum/arnold-schwarzenegger-s-strength-stats-t10605.html, just so I don't get done for plagiarism, because that would suck).
"1968 German powerlifting championships. A brief summary of the results was given in Kraftsport revue (Nr. 45, p. 38). These indicated that Arnold deadlifted 310 kg for a total of 725 kg. Full results were promised for issue nr. 46, which I don’t have. However, Thomas Klose has previously told us that the full results were later reprinted as, Squat 215 kg, Bench 200 kg and Deadlift 310 kg".
So he put up a 725kg total. So **** you.
Meh. Again, I am going to go with 'you were out-squatted by a girl'.
LWStrong
03-04-2010, 17:56
Damn and blast! Now i'll never win. The 'you were out squatted by a girl' retort is far too great, no matter the topic.
My only possible chance of staying above water on this one....
http://mystarbucks.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/the_cat_is_pushing_a_watermelon_out_of_a_lake.jpg
Jesus I hope that works.
You deleted your facebook account mate?
Damn run out of tag space!
Haha. Amusingly, I was actually semi-sponsored by Muddy Fox once.
Tuesday 6/4/10
DE Squat - 140x6x3
DE Paused Bench - 100x6x3
Pendlay Row - 125x4x6
Band Woodchops High to Low - bluex2x12
I feel very dizzy. Is that bad?
Tuesday 6/4/10
DE Squat - 140x6x3
DE Paused Bench - 100x6x3
Pendlay Row - 125x4x6
Band Woodchops High to Low - bluex2x12
I feel very dizzy. Is that bad?Totally normal in my experience...
plateau2
06-04-2010, 20:33
Me too, just a bug in my case I think...
LWStrong
06-04-2010, 21:40
Dizzy? That'll be teh aidz
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