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plateau2
26-05-2011, 16:17
Has anyone used it on here?

I have decided to try someout, not yet will be 2 more weeks of current diet plan.
ATZ
26-05-2011, 16:32
Only really useful if you're doing fasted cardio, as the positive effects of it are wiped out by raised insulin levels. I've used it off / on whilst IF'ing and dieting, seems to help losing fat from the "problem areas". Probably works even better if you're leanish already.

What sort of dosing you looking at? Normal recommendation is 0.2mg/KG
Alex
26-05-2011, 22:04
Just out of interest where are you going to buy from?
plateau2
27-05-2011, 07:47
What sort of dosing you looking at? Normal recommendation is 0.2mg/KG

Starting about 2.5mg I think, I have the Lyle post stored somewhere.

I was only going to use on days I do my fasted cardio.
plateau2
27-05-2011, 07:49
Just out of interest where are you going to buy from?

http://www.elite-n.co.uk/id8.html

Not the 10mg caps as dose would start to high
ATZ
27-05-2011, 07:52
You won't feel 2.5mg at all, 10mg ain't a bad starting point to be honest. When I use it I take 10mg on waking with caffeine, then fasted walk. Then 10mg mid morning with a coffee. Don't waste your time farting round with small doses, unless you're stim sensitive that is?
plateau2
27-05-2011, 08:00
unless you're stim sensitive that is?

Well I used to feel quite crazy on 2 expresso's... But with the birth of Eva I have been drinking coffee like water, and seem less sensitive now.

So strong coffee, redbull and proplus is my experience of stims.

Get the point on the low dose not being effective, but think taking my time for me is probably for the best.
LA
30-05-2011, 14:47
Wouldnt eph be a better choice?
plateau2
30-05-2011, 17:37
Wouldnt eph be a better choice?

Why? Educate me!
ATZ
30-05-2011, 18:25
Depends on the effect you're after? Eph works by a different mechanism.
LA
30-05-2011, 21:49
Why? Educate me!

Well eph and caff stacked together produce good synergy for fat burning. I don't really know enough about yohimbine to comment on it's effectivness, but it's not widely used compared to the more proven eph/caff stack.
plateau2
31-05-2011, 07:21
Depends on the effect you're after? Eph works by a different mechanism.

That people seem to rate it for problem areas was the main reason.

ECA seems to be something taken all through the day (but not too late in day), while I was just going to take these on fasted cardio - so wouldn't need to pop any pills at work
ATZ
31-05-2011, 10:00
That people seem to rate it for problem areas was the main reason.


If that's the effect you were after I would definitely go with Y-HCL over EPH then, EPH is more a metabolism stimulator and appetite suppressant (as well as being a good stimulant to boot).
plateau2
31-05-2011, 10:38
If that's the effect you were after I would definitely go with Y-HCL over EPH then, EPH is more a metabolism stimulator and appetite suppressant (as well as being a good stimulant to boot).

Good!


As I bought some... Not that I'll be doing much cardio over next few days now...