View Full Version : IPF Affiliate, CPF to do "Unequipped"
It was agreed at the CPF meeting "unequipped lifting" is now part of the CPF agenda for records beginning in 2010. Most lifters use unequipped training for their powerlifting development, therefore it is a natural progression to include this type of lifting into the CPF agenda.
We understand "unequipped lifting" is happening in some of our CPF countries already and evidence tells us it has been successful in the UK for the last 5 years. I believe it will make our sport more inclusive and hopefully increase our numbers.
Equipment permitted for CPF unequipped and record submission is IPF compliant. The guidelines are as follows:-
(a) W/L and Wrestling Leotard(s) subject to the following:-
Non-supportive leotards must be one-piece and a full length lifting suit of one-ply stretch material without any patches, padding or division into panels by means of seams not necessary in the manufacture of the costume, or material giving reinforcement/bracing and any seams, false or otherwise that in the opinion of the Technical committee, Jury or referees (if jury or technical committee absent) shall invalidate the costume being used in the competition.
For obvious reasons - the costume must be form fitting without looseness when worn by the lifter. The length of leg must be a minimum of 3cm and a maximum of 25cm. Measured from the top of the crotch down the inside of the leg.
(b) No wraps, bandages, joint sleeves, wrist bandages.
(c) Briefs-IPF technical rules apply.
(d) Socks-IPF technical rules apply
(e) Belt-IPF technical rules apply(f) Shoes or Boots-IPF technical rules apply
(g) Medical tape-IPF technical rules apply.
(i) T shirts for males to be worn for squat and bench but optional for deadlift.
(j) Women must wear T shirts when competing for all lifts.
(k) T shirts to be made of cotton with sleeves terminating above the elbow. No longer than mid-thigh and worn inside the leotard.
(l) Logo’s and inscriptions on suits and shirts may bear the lifters nation-area-club or sponsor. But words or insignia which are offensive or likely to bring the sport into disrepute are not allowed.
Unequipped lifting is a pure form of powerlifting and should suit those lifters who prefer to specialise or do both. I am optimistic about the success of ""equipped", "unequipped" and "single lift" lifting within the CPF.
Finishing on a philosophical note - I often remind myself that Powerlifting is, in the main, a voluntary activity, initially devised by lifters for lifters and managed by officials, administrators and helpers who use their talents within a structured system of rules and protocols. It is a sensitive balance which must be carefully managed. It is a mission the CPF will continue to recognise ... lifters and officials with equal respect.
I look forward to seeing everyone in South Africa in 2011 and would like to thank you all for supporting the Commonwealth Powerlifting Federation.
Peter Fiore
President CPF
Link - http://commonwealthpf.homestead.com/
I'd love it if the IPF took this forward also, surely it must be around the corner now. You only have to look at the fed websites to see which is better run, IPF or WDFPF, at least with IPF/GBPF you get regular e-news, local news etc. I havent had a single thing through my door from the BDFPA, yet as only an affiliate of the GBPF through the WSA i get mail about local stuff regularly.
IMO if the IPF took this on, they'd easily get most people to jump ship.
Something not so cool for the IPF, imo would be the change of weight classes, which will be decided at the AGM in november.
Women: 43 (Sub Junior/Junior), 47, 52, 57, 63, 72, 84, +84
Men: 52 (Sub Junior/ Junior), 58, 66, 74, 83, 93, 105, 120,
+120.
Also looking to allow downward movement in the bench and deadlift.
about time, this is good news
i think so too mate, really not fond of the weight cat changes though, should it go ahead, i cant see it personally, it'd single the fed out meaning people that cross a cat in that fed and another fed would find it difficult to shift cats all the time. also would mean that the records standing would be removed/shifted and comparissons between feds, like on pl watch would be ****ed.
On the other hand moving the weight classes closer to the weightlifting ones could bring in a few new people. 105 would be good for 105 strongmen too.
true, i'd prefere it if i was an ipf lifter, im much more comfortable at 105 and can still eat whatever i want at that weight.
But 120 for shw? That's lame.
Kendrick
06-10-2010, 19:19
I think changing weight classes is mute and not worth it unless you find a way to reduce the classes without pissing of a whole group of lifters!!!
Many IPF affilaites have an unequipped divison including the US one (I forget which one out of the 40 feds the states have; USPLF? ). WPC now has a world champs. Off course they call it 'raw' and then wear knee wraps, retarded.. but the quality of lifting isn't.
I still think it'll be a while before IPF dose an international unequipped champs. Too many people too ingrained into the current status quo. I feel it'll take a new breed of guys and gals coming through to run the fed that'll have the drive and bottle to do it. To many PL is equipped without qualms
Plus lets face it Titan and Inzer would not like the move (whether they say so publically or not).
I'd welcome it, and would love to see PL move away from the gear and towards the sport it should have been.
Ohhh and BDFPA run some excellent meets and are pretty organised. They do however need to get their website in order. GBPF has had its fair share of critism in terms of organisation since it came into being! Plus currently BDFPA unequipped division is the unequiped divison in the UK. I also agree with the fail a test and your out for good policy.
I think changing weight classes is mute and not worth it unless you find a way to reduce the classes without pissing of a whole group of lifters!!!
Many IPF affilaites have an unequipped divison including the US one (I forget which one out of the 40 feds the states have; USPLF? ). WPC now has a world champs. Off course they call it 'raw' and then wear knee wraps, retarded.. but the quality of lifting isn't. USAPL, but WPC isnt tested is it?
I'd welcome it, and would love to see PL move away from the gear and towards the sport it should have been. I gota be honest, i like single ply lifting and it does take a good lifter to master it, but i also think PL is not gona make mainstream without unequipped lifting, the public dont understand enough about the sport to allow "supersuits" as im sure they'd get named.
Ohhh and BDFPA run some excellent meets and are pretty organised. They do however need to get their website in order. GBPF has had its fair share of critism in terms of organisation since it came into being! Plus currently BDFPA unequipped division is the unequiped divison in the UK. I also agree with the fail a test and your out for good policy. yeah i like this policy, though i also think most lifters who druglift in either fed are failing themselves, so its neither here nor there, you're never gona get rid of drugs. i;ve limited experience with the BDFPA but i havent heard jack shit from them about anything and have been a member for 8 months, at least i get emails from the gbpf and letters through the welsh GBPF division.
that all said, ill prob join both next year and lift whenever, its the sport that needs pushing, not a fed.
Kendrick
06-10-2010, 20:28
The WPC was merely to show there is a movement in a major international fed for unequipped lifting.
I am not too fussed about mainstream as such. I just think that equipment makes PL almost morally bankrupt to a point.
true, i'd prefere it if i was an ipf lifter, im much more comfortable at 105 and can still eat whatever i want at that weight.
ditto
105 yarp!
No wrist wraps, that kind of sucks.
Equipment is shit. It deflects attention from who is actually the strongest raw towards who can use the gear the best. I'm not saying for a second that equipped lifters aren't strong as **** - they are, many of them better than the vast majority of raw guys - but the fact remains that once you get into a suit/shirt it totally changes the sport. In my opinion this change is hugely for the worse. I appreciate that there is an artistry to using the kit to an extent, and that some people are great at it, but I really don't see the point in a sport that involves assisted lifting. Why not have a two man bench press?
The only fed to have equipped lifting right is the IPF - strict on the rules and don't take any shit from anybody. Everything done in america is ****ing ridiculous and is either high, super high, not locked out, handed off softly or whatever. The push for a 3000lb total pretty much says it all. Nobody is anywhere near strong enough, so lets just squat higher and higher wearing more and more gear until we get there.
Regarding the weight classes, I don't think it makes a big difference to be honest. I think there are too many and way to many junior sections. Let everyone over 18 lift open and just suck at it. They ll soon focus on getting better rather than being U20 or U23 champion of whatever. Lots of ballbag little weight classes are pretty gay too. Why not go 75, 90, 105, 120, 145, 145+. 67.5 is gay as ****, 82.5 could lift at either 75 or 90, 100 and small 110 go to 105, big 110 and 125 go to 120 and all the fat bastards can stay the same.
Equipment is shit. It deflects attention from who is actually the strongest raw towards who can use the gear the best. I'm not saying for a second that equipped lifters aren't strong as **** - they are, many of them better than the vast majority of raw guys - but the fact remains that once you get into a suit/shirt it totally changes the sport. In my opinion this change is hugely for the worse. I appreciate that there is an artistry to using the kit to an extent, and that some people are great at it, but I really don't see the point in a sport that involves assisted lifting. Why not have a two man bench press?
The only fed to have equipped lifting right is the IPF - strict on the rules and don't take any shit from anybody. Everything done in america is ****ing ridiculous and is either high, super high, not locked out, handed off softly or whatever. The push for a 3000lb total pretty much says it all. Nobody is anywhere near strong enough, so lets just squat higher and higher wearing more and more gear until we get there.
Regarding the weight classes, I don't think it makes a big difference to be honest. I think there are too many and way to many junior sections. Let everyone over 18 lift open and just suck at it. They ll soon focus on getting better rather than being U20 or U23 champion of whatever. Lots of ballbag little weight classes are pretty gay too. Why not go 75, 90, 105, 120, 145, 145+. 67.5 is gay as ****, 82.5 could lift at either 75 or 90, 100 and small 110 go to 105, big 110 and 125 go to 120 and all the fat bastards can stay the same.
Quoted for truth. I still to this day do not understand the use of any equipment that assists the lift to any great degree.
JonnyJames
07-10-2010, 12:02
Equipment is shit. It deflects attention from who is actually the strongest raw towards who can use the gear the best. I'm not saying for a second that equipped lifters aren't strong as **** - they are, many of them better than the vast majority of raw guys - but the fact remains that once you get into a suit/shirt it totally changes the sport. In my opinion this change is hugely for the worse. I appreciate that there is an artistry to using the kit to an extent, and that some people are great at it, but I really don't see the point in a sport that involves assisted lifting. Why not have a two man bench press?
The only fed to have equipped lifting right is the IPF - strict on the rules and don't take any shit from anybody. Everything done in america is ****ing ridiculous and is either high, super high, not locked out, handed off softly or whatever. The push for a 3000lb total pretty much says it all. Nobody is anywhere near strong enough, so lets just squat higher and higher wearing more and more gear until we get there.
Regarding the weight classes, I don't think it makes a big difference to be honest. I think there are too many and way to many junior sections. Let everyone over 18 lift open and just suck at it. They ll soon focus on getting better rather than being U20 or U23 champion of whatever. Lots of ballbag little weight classes are pretty gay too. Why not go 75, 90, 105, 120, 145, 145+. 67.5 is gay as ****, 82.5 could lift at either 75 or 90, 100 and small 110 go to 105, big 110 and 125 go to 120 and all the fat bastards can stay the same.
Further quoted for truth. Spot on.
I still to this day do not understand the use of any equipment that assists the lift to any great degree.
Amen.
Kendrick
07-10-2010, 13:14
I agree with Dave on the kit. Check out PL watch and all the training and meet vids for all those US feds. Joke. Squat high in training, squat high at a meet. RETARDED. I mean if your gona not bother to walk out a squat but happy to wear 5 plys then you could at least make bloody depth. Benches that are never locked out nevermind finishing thus. GAY. Squat 900lbs mutli-tply the barley make 600lbs equipped deadlift... SAD.
Anyhoo that aint powerlifting.
As above, the suggested change in weight classes is nothing worth doing. If you gona change the classes then really go for it and make an actual difference.
75, 90, 110, 125, +125. Job done. 'Bantam', Light, Middle, Heavy, SHW.
I really can't get over what ****ing bullshit multiply lifting is. I am yet to see a multiply squat be 'in'. Surely the guys lifting in this manner must know, to some degree, that they are just moving the goalposts so that they can reach them?
JonnyJames
08-10-2010, 06:35
Surely the guys lifting in this manner must know, to some degree, that they are just moving the goalposts so that they can reach them?
You'd think so, but... Remember Sam's constant squat 'progression?'
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