Judo & BJJ

[PikeKing]

can a judoka enter a BJJ tourney, would they need to acquire a BJJ license or enter through a BJJ club?

and the same question in reverse

[kinkymisspinky]

BJJ tournaments are according to belt rank so the Judoka could enter but probably only as white belt unless they trained BJJ for long enough to get their blue belt.

There isn't a BJJ licence. The waiver form usually has something about you being responsible for your own insurance but you just sign it anyway even if you don't have it and they don't check. For the first time this year at the Gracie Invitational they said we had to have insurance to compete and that the GAA were selling it for £7.50. The Gracie Invitational is organised by the same people that are in charge of the GAA so, to me, it was just an easy way to make some extra money out of everyone.

Yes, a BJJer could enter a Judo tournament. As far as I'm aware Judo tournies are usually split dan and kyu grades and open. The BJJer may have to grade to 9th kyu to enter, not sure if they let white belts fight. At open comps there's no reason for the BJJer not to be able to fight black belt Judoka as a yellow belt.

Why? Are you thinking of entering a BJJ tournament?

[PikeKing]

who knows, anythings possible

[kinkymisspinky]

who knows, anythings possible

How much ground work do you do at Judo? The stand up/ground work balance varies from club to club but I think you'd have to be pretty high ranking in Judo with great newaza to be able to do well at a BJJ comp unless you just keep taking your opponent down and standing up quickly to score two takedown points.

[PikeKing]

newaza to tachiwaza is prob 30:70 or something like that

[kinkymisspinky]

newaza to tachiwaza is prob 30:70 or something like that

That's certainly better than the ratio of standup:groundwork at my BJJ class. However, in my experience, on the ground, the white belts at BJJ give me far more trouble than the black belts at Judo. The Judo black belts that I've rolled with lack some very basic groundwork fundamentals that would make them easy prey at a BJJ comp.

[PikeKing]

if possible I'd train judo and bjj, i'm prob more interested in competing in Judo though, as I love hearing IPPON! being screamed by the ref, and throws are cool, and I actually quite like pins now.

BJJ would be good to help me get confidence in my subs as I feel at judo we dont spend enought ime on them to really get a good feel for them

[Beaker]

I'd like to have a crack at a BJJ tourney. I'd definatley feel more comfortable in a pure grappling situation without the threat of being thown. Would be good to see how my skills match up against a BJJ'er.

[kinkymisspinky]

if possible I'd train judo and bjj, i'm prob more interested in competing in Judo though, as I love hearing IPPON! being screamed by the ref, and throws are cool, and I actually quite like pins now.

BJJ would be good to help me get confidence in my subs as I feel at judo we dont spend enought ime on them to really get a good feel for them

Yes, it is satisfying to throw someone. What made you change your mind about pins?

In my experience of Judo groundwork training they show a position's rough outline but lacking the small details. When the Judoka tries it in a live sparring situation it doesn't work then they think it's not a good position and doesn't bother to try it again.

I don't think BJJ is about subs. Subs are definitely a part of it but not the main part. The game is about control. Playing BJJ is about movement, especially hips.

[kinkymisspinky]

I'd like to have a crack at a BJJ tourney. I'd definatley feel more comfortable in a pure grappling situation without the threat of being thown. Would be good to see how my skills match up against a BJJ'er.

It starts off standing and not all BJJ fighters pull guard! Some like to play on top and will be looking for a takedown.