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madcap
28-06-2007, 17:15
same old with regards to training...

Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4

155x3x3F *PB*

failed last rep because I chickened out, felt heavy and noone was around to spot/shout at me

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

105x3x3

last rep was a bit of a grinder

Pullthroughs

4x8

WG Chins

BWx3x6

wasn't gonna train today, but a mixture of boredom, shit daytime tv and being on a high from getting my uni results sent me to the gym. It's also become evident that I may need to move gyms in order to get someone with similar goals as me to train with.

HardcoreSportsTraining
28-06-2007, 17:16
AC-DC?

Also, what goals are those then? I know you said you don't want to do strongman...

madcap
28-06-2007, 17:20
AC-DC?

You knows it! :023:

Strongman is not for me, I need to stay static, therefore powerlifting is what I'm going for. And I want 200/140/260 by the end of 2008

HardcoreSportsTraining
28-06-2007, 17:24
Two thousand and ****ing eight! You can do that by the end of this year!

madcap
28-06-2007, 17:30
no way! maybe if I pull my finger out with the squats I could get 200 by the end of the year, a 140 bench is a long way off and I can't see myself putting 50kg on my deadlift this year

HardcoreSportsTraining
28-06-2007, 17:33
I can't see myself putting 50kg on my deadlift this year
You won't then ;)

Icepick
28-06-2007, 17:45
so are you back in london now or your staying up in notts.

Tricky
28-06-2007, 18:31
You knows it! :023:

Strongman is not for me, I need to stay static, therefore powerlifting is what I'm going for. And I want 200/140/260 by the end of 2008
IIRC you weigh something like 96? If you want to PL you need to pick a weight class then get to your training weight for it, e.g if you want to be a 100, get to 102 or so. If you want to be a 90, get to 92 or so. This is more relevant for IPF, if you want to lift BPC or whatever, you can train a lot more over your BW cat.

Good goals, but id try and make them a bit more contiguous with each other, e.g. you probably arnt far off 200 sq, but if you're 50kg of 260 dl, then time wise, they dont add up. Personally id set closer (in terms of time it'll take to acheive, AND total time...18months is very long term) goals.

Fred
28-06-2007, 18:40
basically you are a bellend

Narc
28-06-2007, 20:51
Probably would be wise to start squatting like a powerlifter too, though it pains me to tell anyone to do that

madcap
28-06-2007, 20:57
its definitely something I'll look into Tim but I find a narrow stance and higher bar more comfortable, plus, I've seen plenty of vids of PLers who squat narrow.

Ice, I'm staying in Notts for the forseeable future.

Ben, my scales had me at 92 the other day, but noone believes that to be true. Regardless 90s is what I'm initially aiming for

Fred, thanks.

Narc
28-06-2007, 21:03
No way you're 92kg mate, not unless you have seriously skinny wheels!

madcap
28-06-2007, 21:09
which I don't :(

Sloth
28-06-2007, 22:36
**** your training, how did you get on in uni mate !!?

EDIT : ignore, just been to idle chat

Tricky
29-06-2007, 13:41
its definitely something I'll look into Tim but I find a narrow stance and higher bar more comfortable, plus, I've seen plenty of vids of PLers who squat narrow.

Ice, I'm staying in Notts for the forseeable future.

Ben, my scales had me at 92 the other day, but noone believes that to be true. Regardless 90s is what I'm initially aiming for

Fred, thanks.
Plenty PL'ers squat shoulder width. Not many any narrower than that apart from Dave Carter. NO PL'ers squat high bar that i can think of. Get in on your rear delts FFS.

92-93 is a great training weight for the 90's.

Suisse
29-06-2007, 13:43
your not 92. The scales in F1 are correct. Seen as though I weigh the same at home as I do there. Off to Wilkos u go.

p.s. ****in well done at Uni and for gettin a job with a trent degree.

Peace

madcap
29-06-2007, 14:43
the scales in f1 are gay, I don't weigh more than you! But cheers, luckily for you, I'm still in Notts to watch/shout at the outlaws

cheers ben, will sort out my bar position sharpish

Mark87
29-06-2007, 18:35
What logic is your training based on?

madcap
30-06-2007, 00:32
what do you mean?

madcap
02-07-2007, 18:01
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x2

155x3

knee started giving me grief after this so stopped

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

102.5x5x3

Pullthroughs

4x8

WG Chins

BWx3x6

madcap
04-07-2007, 18:44
OHP

bar x many
50x5

70x2x4
70x4F

nearly blacked out on the last rep, from next week I'm dropping weight and upping the reps, heavy OHP doesn't agree with me anymore

Deadlift

60x many
100x4

187.5x5x3

Seated rows (neutral grip)

14th pin x2x5
13th pin x3x5

Cuff

Low pulley cable ext. x3x8

madcap
07-07-2007, 15:47
CG Bench

bar x many
60x12

92.5x2x8
92.5x6

Box Squat

bar x many
75x5
95x5
115x3
135x2x3

45 Row

10th pin x 5x5

Dec. Smith Bench

80x3x8

JB
07-07-2007, 16:14
are you going with a bit more of PL style bar position and squat style now?

madcap
07-07-2007, 16:31
trying to yeah

madcap
09-07-2007, 19:05
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x2

155x4x3 *PB*

that's more like it

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

105x5x3 *PB*

Pullthroughs

4x8

WG Chins

BWx3x6

Good. session.

PikeKing
09-07-2007, 19:07
how u getting on with pullthroughs

madcap
09-07-2007, 19:09
theyre alright, on the 11th pin out of 12 on the cable machine for them

PikeKing
09-07-2007, 19:29
got the technique? by that i mean you comfortable, took me ages to get to the point where they felt "right"

madcap
09-07-2007, 19:45
yeah I think so, feels pretty good, and the back doesn't grumble

PikeKing
09-07-2007, 19:46
cool, yup i like em

what do u hold? rope? stirrup?

madcap
09-07-2007, 20:05
stirrup, the only rope there is in the gym is a double handled one and that rubs against my legs when I do them, muy annoying

PikeKing
09-07-2007, 20:06
yup i've found the stirrup to be the best, plus i dont have to explain about strange friction burns on my groin anymore

Narc
09-07-2007, 20:07
You love a bit of stirrup between your legs you ****ing fudge packers

madcap
09-07-2007, 20:09
i've heard you demand a metal pole be shoved up your ass when DLing so I would hush if I was you bwai

Narc
09-07-2007, 20:11
I'll 'bwai' you

PikeKing
09-07-2007, 20:11
how u doing them cap? like a RDL or u squatting into them?

madcap
09-07-2007, 20:12
like a RDL

LA
09-07-2007, 20:19
I like pullthroughs. I just wish there was a place I could do them in my gym. Last time I did them on the cable push down machine, I was pulling it off the wall lol

PikeKing
09-07-2007, 20:27
sounds like a good reason to do it to me!

madcap
09-07-2007, 20:33
LA, in your gym is doing pullthroughs likened to buying a whopper in McDonalds, like it is in mine?

EDIT: By that I mean something that just generally isn't done, not something that only Chuck Norris has done

LA
10-07-2007, 12:56
LA, in your gym is doing pullthroughs likened to buying a whopper in McDonalds, like it is in mine?

EDIT: By that I mean something that just generally isn't done, not something that only Chuck Norris has done

Yup!! I always get some funny looks, and people asking me which muscles it works. I also get the same with GM's and facepulls.

madcap
11-07-2007, 20:00
OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x5

Deadlift

100x4

190x3x3

no chalk, my grip is wank. gay

Seated NG row

14th pin x 3x5
13th pin x 2x5

PMSH

3x8

Icepick
11-07-2007, 22:31
nice deads

madcap
12-07-2007, 06:37
thanks ice, but I don't think they're good enough, 187.5 fell pretty easily for 5x3 so was hoping to get at least 4x3 with 190. hopefully next week things will get better once I buy some chalk

Icepick
12-07-2007, 08:03
well everyday can't be a holiday, I pulled 210 last night and it felt ****ing hard. Do u train with Wightman then?

madcap
12-07-2007, 09:39
not at the moment, I occasionally train with his training partner, Dave H, in my gym and he keeps inviting me down to train with them but I've never got round to it. Once my current gym membership expires I might well do though

LA
12-07-2007, 14:30
How easy was the OHP? Looks a little low for you?

madcap
12-07-2007, 19:03
pretty easy, I've deliberately lowered my OHP because heavy OHPs were ****ing me up, thought I was gonna blackout last week

madcap
14-07-2007, 12:32
CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

92.5x8
92.5x2x6

Box Squat

bar x many
80x5
100x5
120x3
140x2x3

45 Row

11th pin x 2 x 5
10th pin x 3 x 5

Dec Smith Bench

85x3x8

madcap
17-07-2007, 07:40
Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

107.5x4x3

Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x2

155x3x3

damn knee

Pullthroughs

4x8

WG Chins

BWx2x6
BWx9F

everything aches today, can't wait to take some time off

Narc
17-07-2007, 10:26
I know the feeling!

madcap
20-07-2007, 14:43
Cuff

Low pulley cable ext. x 3x8

Deadlift

100x4
140x2

190x5x3

OHP

60x2x6

stopped here cos my parents had come up for my graduation, and i felt kinda bad sacking them off to train, leaving them to wait for me in their hotel, considering they had flown in from Texas, but I'm happy with the deads

HardcoreSportsTraining
20-07-2007, 14:46
Ooh, do they have big hats, own an oil field and randomly fire pistols whilst eating chili?

madcap
20-07-2007, 14:51
Ooh, do they have big hats, own an oil field and randomly fire pistols whilst eating chili?

yes
no
no

:046: the hats were told to stay in Texas

HardcoreSportsTraining
20-07-2007, 16:44
BTW did we know there is a real Roy Harris?

http://www.royharris.com/

madcap
21-07-2007, 15:50
hahaha that's actually quite funny. And awesome too because he is a badass

CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

92.5x3x7

Box Squat

bar x many
85x5
105x5
125x3
130x2x3

dunno what happened here, wasn't feeling it. i put it down to too much sleep/having a wank pre gym/not eating enough/wanting to play football manager in bed

45 Row

11th pin x3x5
10th pin x2x5

Dec. Smith Bench

bar x many
60x4

90x2x6
90x8

madcap
23-07-2007, 12:22
i really am not up for training today...

666
23-07-2007, 12:31
Have some caffeine, suck it up and get it done you big nancy!

madcap
23-07-2007, 12:57
left my caffeine at home :( might just have to overload on gatorade then...

van_halen
23-07-2007, 13:05
Yeah stop being so damn lazy! Get some caffeine or ephidrine down you and lift some big weights! :016:

Narc
23-07-2007, 13:36
Roy, gay, stop being gay

madcap
23-07-2007, 14:27
meh

madcap
24-07-2007, 09:46
Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

107.5x5x3 *PB*

Oly Squat

bar x many
60x6
100x4
140x2

155xbottled it

knees were giving me grief during warm up and the walkout felt uber heavy

Pullthroughs

4x8

WG Chins

BWx2x7
BWx6

van_halen
24-07-2007, 09:51
Good to see someone doind paused bench press :045:

Squats looking strong. :023:

madcap
24-07-2007, 09:58
squats have been stronger :(

after friday I'm having a good 1-2 weeks off squatting to rest myself

Narc
24-07-2007, 10:36
squats have been stronger :(

after friday I'm having a good 1-2 weeks of squatting to rest myself

1-2 weeks 'of' squatting or 1-2 weeks 'off' squatting? Stupido

madcap
24-07-2007, 10:39
off squatting, muy stupido

madcap
26-07-2007, 07:44
OHP

bar x many
40x6

60x3x6

Deadlift

100x4
140x2

192.5x5x3 *PB*

going for a 220 1RM next week

Skullcrushers

40x3x6

need to do more tricep work to help my bench so I've added these in

NG Seated Row

14th pin x 5 x 5 *PB*

Cuff

Low pulley cable extension x3x8

LA
26-07-2007, 10:09
Nice Deads!

Skulls can be quite harsh on the elbows, but then so is most tricep work.

666
26-07-2007, 10:24
You don't have much pressing volume really; that's the problem with whole body sessions. If you're training for powerlifting still you'd probably be better off using OHP as assistance and adding in more flat pressing as your main exercise. Plus for isos like skullcrushers high reps like 10-20 I find are loads better - lower stuff buggers my elbows, like Lactic said.

Icepick
26-07-2007, 11:09
hmmm the only thing isos like skulls, pulldowns, etc are good at is giving you sore triceps which then present an illusion that they are really blasting your triceps, when what you really need to be working are cg benches, boards, lockouts.

madcap
26-07-2007, 11:44
oh ok. well i was always in the understanding that boards and lockouts were to help with equipped benching? with regards to the OHPing, I'm gonna gradually add the reps each week while sticking with 60k and with the skulls, I was just playing about really, could've easily added some more reps in

cheers for the input guys

cruffle
26-07-2007, 12:35
just from personal experience but skulls really did **** my elbows, so be careful cap, pick's advice sounds pretty good to me.

Best of luck for a 220kf deadlift. 5 plates would be very cool indeed.

NJ
26-07-2007, 12:47
Best of luck for a 220k f deadlift.

You reckon he won't get it then... :047:

cruffle
26-07-2007, 12:51
lol, ;)

Nah you'll get it cap. We'll want proof tho, ;)

Icepick
26-07-2007, 12:54
yea he should get it, 15 reps @ 190k will give me like a 240k max but then again everyone is different, oh yea get it on video!!

madcap
26-07-2007, 13:47
it'll be on my camera phone cos my camera is in storage, unless I go to the storage place over the weekend

666
26-07-2007, 15:52
hmmm the only thing isos like skulls, pulldowns, etc are good at is giving you sore triceps which then present an illusion that they are really blasting your triceps, when what you really need to be working are cg benches, boards, lockouts.
Thing is, they give you a load of CNS strain and you'll struggle to do that much of them on top of heavy benching. If you do light high-rep isos for tris, you'll grow giving more potential for strength with little overall strain. I tend to only get sore when it's something I'm not used to - after a few weeks of triceps isos they don't really ache any different to anything else.

Icepick
26-07-2007, 16:07
hmmm as long as you know how to program your exercises, then you can get away with anything

All this CNS stuff is a cop-out.

666
26-07-2007, 19:33
I'm not saying don't do them, I'm saying they're not an alternative to triceps isos, they're something you'd do sparingly whereas you can do lots of volumes on isos every time.

DMPM
27-07-2007, 16:23
oh ok. well i was always in the understanding that boards and lockouts were to help with equipped benching? with regards to the OHPing, I'm gonna gradually add the reps each week while sticking with 60k and with the skulls, I was just playing about really, could've easily added some more reps in

cheers for the input guys
I think low boards, CG benching, DB presses and heavy lat work is going to benefit you most for raw work.

madcap
28-07-2007, 13:56
ok cheers

CG Bench
bar x many
60x12
92.5x3x8 *PB*

Box Squat

bar x many
85x5
105x5
125x3
135x3

45 Row
11th pin x 5x5 *PB*

Dec Smith bench

bar x many
60x5
90x3x8 *PB*

Pushdowns

4x8

666
28-07-2007, 15:04
Good session, nice CGB. Quite high compared to your normal bench?

madcap
29-07-2007, 13:57
thats what i thought, but then i know people who can CG bench mre than normal so maybe my CG bench isn't so great

Tricky
30-07-2007, 14:23
hmmm as long as you know how to program your exercises, then you can get away with anything

All this CNS stuff is a cop-out.
KER-CHING! Nice post, although i do belive:

as long as you know how to program your exercises, then you can get away with anything


:023:

hmmm the only thing isos like skulls, pulldowns, etc are good at is giving you sore triceps which then present an illusion that they are really blasting your triceps
NEVER. DISS. THE. PUMP.

madcap
31-07-2007, 11:09
Deadlift

60x6
100x4
140x2
180x2
200x1
210x1
220x1 *PB*
227.5x1 *PB*

Coolest vid in the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82NM9Wi3h1s)

Apologies for the video quality, was taken on my phone, PMSL at the spacker behind me on the 2nd clip

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x2
105x2
110x2
115x1
120xF
120x1 *PB*

NJ
31-07-2007, 11:17
Well done mate, made it look easy :038:

Icepick
31-07-2007, 12:06
great stuff mate, you will be pulling much more in no time, well done on the bench as well.

666
31-07-2007, 12:21
Nice work mate, will watch the vid later. Good stuff getting the 120 after failing it too.

cruffle
31-07-2007, 12:28
awsome, congrats cap!! You have come on leaps and bounds recently, level pegging with Tim now!!

whats the next target gonna be??

madcap
31-07-2007, 13:09
cheers guys

not so sure with goals but I'm thinking bench 130 and pull 250 by 2008

things are going well yeah, dunno about the comparison with Tim though, i would consider him an athlete (seriously) and thus I am someway behind him.

Anyways, think I'm moving to a new, better gym soon, so i hope the numbers will keep moving up.

Sloth
31-07-2007, 13:19
lmao at the guys behind and the suck it cross hands thing.
rocking numbers mate, ****ing well in !!!"£!"£!"£$!¬!$()(*$£"!!!! :023:

madcap
31-07-2007, 13:20
lmao at the guys behind and the suck it cross hands thing.
rocking numbers mate, ****ing well in !!!"£!"£!"£$!¬!$()(*$£"!!!! :023:

lol had to get that in, discretely...

thinking about it now, i should've had a stab at 230. oh well

Narc
31-07-2007, 16:57
Well done Royston! And thanks for the kind words! Get yourself in a PL comp ya bald banana!

Also, wtf is that guy doing with those DB's in the background!?

Mark87
31-07-2007, 17:15
Impressive stuff. Looking beefy as well.

Beaker
31-07-2007, 17:53
Also, wtf is that guy doing with those DB's in the background!?

I believe he is building some hurting bombs !!

ocaz
31-07-2007, 18:17
Good stuff, couple of fools do that shit the guy was doing in your vid! Why? also when they hold Db's by their side and twist their arms :017:

Anyway, great lifting sure you will hit those targets

666
31-07-2007, 18:27
Sure you could aim a little higher than 130 on the bench, you did more beforehand than you really needed for a proper max I'd have thought and you're still pretty new to paused bench. Go 3 plates!

Tricky
31-07-2007, 19:35
I believe he is building some hurting bombs !!
haha like it.

with the re-introduction of the awesome insult 'spacker' this thread has had some good shit going on.

Good work Madcap.

LA
31-07-2007, 19:39
Well done Rory. Awesome progress on the Bench and the Dead. My Dead PB is only 240 lol.

Nice backing track on the vid too! Break it Down!!!

Tricky
31-07-2007, 20:16
Well done Rory. Awesome progress on the Bench and the Dead. My Dead PB is only 240 lol.

Nice backing track on the vid too! Break it Down!!!
Behave. None of your pb's are actual maxes.

Icepick
31-07-2007, 20:34
agree, if lactic hooked up with some PL dudes, his lifts will fly up, I used to be like a bit when I train on my own, I would always stopped once something start feeling a bit too hard.

Back to the agenda ,Just seen the vid now that I'm at home, I'm guessing that if you can add fancy music and text then you can certainly edit some of the useless nothingness before you actually start lifting, also why are you taking ages at the bottom position before starting, looks lto me that you can do with more bottle :D forms looks miles better, still not perfect though.

Suisse
31-07-2007, 21:08
well done. Especially on the bench, it was pretty obvious u would pull that DL.

Looks like I might have to put Dead lifts back in to keep up with u then. But lookin at that tool in the video :044: I really dont wanna go back to F1. That was ure last session there though wasnt it.

madcap
01-08-2007, 07:43
thanks all, more to come I hope...

Suisse, yeah that was my last session at f1, supposed to be going to Garth's soon but that's dependant on other people, so might just keep my f1 membership a monthly thing and yeah, get deadlifting again you clip

Ice, I had to edit the vid to fit text and music in, but couldn't be arsed messing with the clips, eastenders was on lol but yeah my form wasn't great, knew I could do with getting lower

Ian, there's no way I'll hit 140 on bench, maybe T&G but then I'd just be massaging my ego rather than doing anything helpful for my training.

I really don't know why people do what they do in my gym, men's health bullshit probably, but yeah spacker is a cool word!!!

madcap
09-08-2007, 07:33
back in the gym, got bored sitting around doing shit all:

OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x6

Deadlift

100x4
140x2

195x3x3

this was hard. was quite annoyed how hard it was, but then realised i had been off for over a week and I'm still going up in weight. plus it's a PB for 3x3 for me.

Skulls

bar x many

42.5x3x8

Seated NG row

15th pin x 3 x 3, x 6 *PB*

Cuff

Low pulley cable ext. x3x8

Sloth
09-08-2007, 10:40
nice deads.

cruffle
09-08-2007, 13:52
^^^
agreed, you're as bad as tim moaning about deads which you should be over the moon about.

Narc
09-08-2007, 19:41
Nah, he's right, that's shit.

madcap
10-08-2007, 07:28
Nah, he's right, that's shit.

~~~~~~

while I see the point cruffle and pkpit are making, progress is progress, but I'm setting pretty high standards for myself and anything short of that is not acceptable

Fred
10-08-2007, 09:25
i agree with narcy and roarsalot, thats good progress but still gay

madcap
11-08-2007, 12:04
Box Squat

bar x many
80x5
100x5
120x2
130x2
140x2
145x2 *PB*

CG Bench

bar x many
60x5

95x2x6, 8 *PB*

45 Row

12th pin x 3 *PB*
11th pin x4x5

Dec. Smith Bench

bar x many
60x5
95x3x6 *PB*

Pushdowns

3x8


ahhh it's a deep burn...got killer doms today

666
11-08-2007, 20:16
Nice session. Don't seem to be doing any assistance for your squat and deads?

madcap
12-08-2007, 18:01
box squats and pullthroughs don't count as accessories? :017:

madcap
14-08-2007, 07:38
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x2

150x3x3

Paused bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

110x2x3, 3F

wank

WG Chins

BWx3x7

Pullthroughs

4x8

666
14-08-2007, 08:10
box squats and pullthroughs don't count as accessories? :017:
Well box squats are squats and I haven't seen pullthroughs in a little while...? Anyway, even that is less than you do for upper body, but lower body lifts make up 2/3 of powerlifting.

madcap
14-08-2007, 09:03
Well box squats are squats and I haven't seen pullthroughs in a little while...? Anyway, even that is less than you do for upper body, but lower body lifts make up 2/3 of powerlifting.

that being said though, my knees feel battered enough as it is and i don't want to put too much stress on my lower back. Also, squats and deads are going much better than my bench at the moment

666
14-08-2007, 10:25
Fair enough, as long as there's a reason for it, not just a BBing hangover or some such.

madcap
14-08-2007, 11:07
aye there's reason to it :023:

madcap
16-08-2007, 07:40
OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x7

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

195x4x3, 2F *PB*

Skulls

bar x many

45x3x8

NG Seated Row

15th pin x 4
14th pin x4x5

Cuff

PMSHx3x10

madcap
20-08-2007, 08:51
From Friday...

CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

95x3x7 *PB*

last one was a bit of a grinder so will stick to 3x7 next session

Box Squats

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x3
120x2
130x2
140x2
150x2 *PB*

150 flew up, should've carried on really

45 Row

12th pin x 4
11th pinx4x5

Dec. Smith Bench

bar x many
60x5

95x2x7, 5

lights went out at the gym at this point as it was closing time

Tricky
20-08-2007, 18:15
failing to see any useful carryover from decline smith benching rory

madcap
21-08-2007, 07:52
yep i think you're right ben, might just drop these for more tricep work

Oly Squat

bar x many
60x6
100x4
140x2

150x2x3

banged my hip on my desk at work, and it was starting to bother me so left it here.

Paused bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

110x4x2, 4

hands slipping on the bar, put some chalk on for last set

WG Chins

BWx3x7

Pullthroughs

4x8

666
21-08-2007, 08:17
Decent session, bench seems to be progressing nicely. Good chins too.

chi
21-08-2007, 08:19
^^^ very jealous of people who can chin a lot

Tricky
21-08-2007, 17:00
yep i think you're right ben, might just drop these for more tricep work


what bench work do you do in a week?

madcap
22-08-2007, 10:14
what bench work do you do in a week?

if I was to be tenuous...

paused bench
ohp
skulls
CG bench
dec. smith bench
pushdowns
+ lat stuff

Tricky
22-08-2007, 16:25
where do you miss your lifts ? Wasnt it about 2" off chest ?

madcap
22-08-2007, 16:33
yeah that sounds about right

666
22-08-2007, 17:39
Could do with some more bottom end stuff in there then really - DB press, bottom position bench, long-paused bench, cambered-bar bench etc. probably instead of the decline bench, maybe even CGB as well.

madcap
23-08-2007, 09:52
Paused DB bench instead of decline?

Tricky
23-08-2007, 16:25
i really dont like long paused or even paused raw bench at all. Cambered bar neither. Just too much for the shos unless you have unbelivable mobility in the shos.

if you ever want to do unequipped PL comps then i suppose pause raw bench will have to be a staple. You suck at CGB which is as good a reason to keep them in as any...

yeah id just switch the decline for paused DB press. I do them not so much paused as 'sunk'...let the handle of the bells come down to chest level then release some tension so the weight of the db's pushes your elbows down even more. 5+ reps, you dont wanna be doing it as ME.

that did my raw bench the world of good.

madcap
23-08-2007, 20:18
cheers ben :023:

OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x7

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

200x6x1

for some reason, music is a key factor in firing me up for deads, 5th rep "hey there delilah" was on t'radio, now it may be a nice song so serenade your woman with, but not helping my deads, then at the 6th rep, the Triple H theme, which happens to be on my pre gym playlist comes on the radio and the last one flew up :017:

Skulls

bar x many
47.5x3x8

NG Seated row

15th pinx4x5, 5F *PB*

PMSH

6x3x8

madcap
26-08-2007, 11:24
from yesterday:

CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

95x2x7, 8F

Box Squat

barxmany
65x5
85x5
105x3
125x2
135x2
145x2
155x2F *PB*

45 Row

12th pinx5
11th pinx4x5

Paused DB Bench

30x3x8

massive lactic acid buid up here, ouch!

Pushdowns

3x7

madcap
28-08-2007, 19:46
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x6
100x3
140x4

knees hurting and I'm not squatting heavy again til I get suitable knee support

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x1

110x5x2

need wrist support

WG Chins

BWx2x8, 8F *PB*

Pullthroughs

4x8

I'm falling apart. stupid body

NJ
29-08-2007, 07:47
knees hurting and I'm not squatting heavy again til I get suitable knee support



If you have a shop called 'Home Bargains' near you they are selling knee support / sleeves for 99p each, well they are in the one near me any way.

Now, I don't know what the quality is like and wether you would deem them suitable, I only took a quick look at them.

I will buy one this weekend and let you know if you like, could always post a couple on to you ?

Tone C
29-08-2007, 08:03
Poundland is another option for cheap knee sleeves.I wore one of theirs when I ****ed up an ankle.Not brilliant but much better than nothing.

madcap
29-08-2007, 10:26
I will buy one this weekend and let you know if you like, could always post a couple on to you ?

cheers for the offer mate, but my dad's bringing me some wraps from america, might look into getting some cheap sleeves if they're decent though

Tricky
29-08-2007, 16:27
no offense, but if you are benching 110, you really dont NEED wrist support.

The idea of wrist wraps is to stop your hand bending back to an extreme degree under heavy load. If you cant control your wrists at 110, you need to work on wrist extensors before buying wraps.

madcap
29-08-2007, 18:46
hm, well I already have them, but nevermind. Pardon my ignorance, can you elaborate on the extensors stuff?

Tricky
29-08-2007, 21:04
well presumably you are getting sore wrists cos they are bending over too much at the bottom as in pic B. What im saying is, if you cant maintain at least a semblance of the form in pic A with 110kg then you need to look at strengthening your wrists/forearms.

madcap
29-08-2007, 21:24
nicely illustrated lol cheers

madcap
31-08-2007, 01:41
OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x2x8, 8F

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

200x3x3 *PB*

Skulls

50x3x8 *PB*

Seated NG Row

15th pin x5x5 *PB*

PMSH

6x3x8

NJ
31-08-2007, 07:27
Congrats on the PB's Rory.

Those skulls must make your elbows scream ?

LA
31-08-2007, 08:26
Looks like you had a good session there - plenty of PB's.

cruffle
31-08-2007, 10:10
ace deads!!!

Sloth
31-08-2007, 10:10
like the deads, there coming along smoothly. do you find the skulls good for strength, or is it more a ht thing for leaverage at the elbow?

madcap
31-08-2007, 17:04
haven't really done skulls long enough to know how well its working lol but my elbows were feeling fine during this session, last rep was a grinder and my tris are killing today

madcap
01-09-2007, 14:51
Box Squat

bar x many
65x5
85x5
105x2
125x2
135x2
145x2

CG Bench

bar x 12
60x10

95x3x7

madcap
03-09-2007, 19:09
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x5
100x4
140x2

145x3 / 150x3 / 155x3

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x1

110x3x3

WG Chins

BWx3x8

Pullthroughs

4x8

stacked the machine

decent session w00ty w00t

666
03-09-2007, 22:48
Aye, looks decent all round. Throwing some paused stuff in myself for the next few weeks. How long's your pause?

madcap
04-09-2007, 11:23
i'd say about 1.5 seconds

JB
04-09-2007, 12:25
Things looking good here, any closer to competing?

madcap
04-09-2007, 18:21
Things looking good here, any closer to competing?

cheers mate, fraid not, don't plan on competing until next year, I have quite a bit to iron out until then!

Tricky
04-09-2007, 20:28
honest to god, (not that i belive in him, making this oath a bit shallow) nothing will improve your lifting more than entering a comp. All the BWLA regionals are coming up, no one cares how smooth your lifts are or how much you lift. Why wait? Your not gonna win anything next year either.

EDIT - That last line sounds harsh, but i hope you get where im coming from.

madcap
04-09-2007, 20:54
believe it or not, my dad said something similar. I just don't feel ready for it yet

Icepick
04-09-2007, 20:54
Sorry but we don't want druggies in BWLA :D j/k

Seriously though, get counted and step up to the plate, what you learn from competing is invaluable.

madcap
04-09-2007, 20:57
Sorry but we don't want druggies in BWLA :D j/k

Seriously though, get counted and step up to the plate, what you learn from competing is invaluable.

haha cheers

Narc
05-09-2007, 09:18
Aye. I'd echo the same sentiments. Get your nerves and novice mistakes out the way when (Like Ben, not trying to sound harsh) you're going to come near last anyway. Get some experience, set a standard for yourself to beat, and you'll probably enjoy some extra motivation from it all too.

madcap
05-09-2007, 20:21
Cuff

Low Pulley Ext. x 4x8

OHP

bar x 12
40x5

60x2x8, 8F

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

200x4x3 *PB*

Skulls

52.5x3x7 *PB*

NG Seated Rows

15th pin x3x6

Sloth
05-09-2007, 20:23
nice deads again. looking forward to doing reps with 200 myself, in..6 weeks i think.

cruffle
05-09-2007, 21:15
yep, nice deads cap. it doesn't seem that long ago that you got a 200 single.

madcap
05-09-2007, 21:21
aye the 200 single was in the end of May :)

cheers fellas

madcap
07-09-2007, 19:42
Box Squat

bar x many
60x5
100x4
120x3

140x3x3

CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

95x2x8, 8F

45 Row

11th pin x3x5

gym got closed here, so didnt get to do my paused DB bench.

Vids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVNEtN6DV8)

madcap
07-09-2007, 21:41
Video added...

666
07-09-2007, 23:15
Spent a long time trying to get an arch for the pressing, then ended up being flat as a pancake with your legs wobbling around! Sure you'd be doing better if you tightened that up.

madcap
08-09-2007, 10:36
wasn't trying to get an arch, I don't use one for CG, I was just psyching myself up for the lift

madcap
10-09-2007, 20:09
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x1

147.5x3 / 152.5x3 / 157.5x3

need to check if the 157.5 is a PB for reps...

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x1

110x5x2

WG Chins

BWx3x8

Pullthroughs

4x10

Tricky
10-09-2007, 20:29
squatting is really coming on well. Looks like you would be good for 180+

madcap
10-09-2007, 20:45
cheers ben, I was thinking that earlier. when I get to 160x3 I reckon I'll be there.

Think I'm gonna train 4 times a week soon, focussing on each of the big 3 on separate days, with 2 days for bench seeing as that's what is letting me down.

I'm thinking:

Mon - Bench day
Tues - Squat day
Thurs - Deadlift day
Sat - Bench day

666
10-09-2007, 22:04
Squatting's definitely coming along nicely. Wouldn't you be better off swapping Thu and Sat so you had longer between upper and lower sessions?

madcap
10-09-2007, 22:25
yes. lol

madcap
12-09-2007, 19:57
Low Pulley cable ext

3x8

OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x6

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

200x5x3 *PB*

Had to go home here as gym was closing. How I pulled those deads out of the bag I'll never know, been in Birmingham today, slept on my way back, got dropped off at the gym, ate a sandwich and drank a pint of gatorade and did the most lethargic of sessions. Pleased though

Icepick
12-09-2007, 22:09
That is nice work cap, keep it going and you will be pulling 260 in no time.

madcap
13-09-2007, 11:22
cheers 'pick!

madcap
14-09-2007, 19:19
Box Squat

bar x many
60x5
100x4
120x2

142.5xF
142.5x3x3

re: the fail, some **** as I was walking out with it, decided to nudge the bar sending me backwards, i was VERY lucky someone was there to make the save and was livid throughout todays sesh...

CG Bench
bar x many
60x12

95x2x8, 6F
****ed off with this so...
60x15

45 Row

11th pin x5x5

Paused DB Bench

30x3x8

Sloth
14-09-2007, 19:44
what a **** they were. did they appologise!?

madcap
14-09-2007, 20:12
did they bollocks

after i reracked i asked what he was playing at in not so kind words, the PT who was with him (it was his 1st session) quickly ushered him round the corner.

I'm havin words with the owner of the place on monday, it's not on

Sloth
14-09-2007, 20:16
that does take the piss a wee bit!! should have shot put it through his skull, or used his skull as a box for the rest of the session.

madcap
14-09-2007, 20:37
that does take the piss a wee bit!! should have shot put it through his skull, or used his skull as a box for the rest of the session.

****ing word!!!!!!!!!!1111

Sloth
14-09-2007, 20:38
sharting in the hole, without pants on, with warm balls so they sagged in his face.

Narc
14-09-2007, 20:38
Could be worse, could have cancer.

madcap
14-09-2007, 20:39
read my sig...****

Narc
14-09-2007, 20:42
Appears to be blanked out, Tim Is A MASSIVE Cancer patient?

madcap
14-09-2007, 20:56
That's it yep.

madcap
17-09-2007, 19:34
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x6
100x4
140x1

150x3 / 155x3 / 160x3 *PB*

squats were more than comfortable

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x1

110x4x3, 3F

failed the last rep due to relaxing on the pause, gay

WG Chins

BWx3x8

Pullthroughs

3x12

...and Nigella's on the tv... giggidy

LA
17-09-2007, 21:12
Good squatting dude.

Tone C
17-09-2007, 21:17
Well done on PB.

madcap
17-09-2007, 21:20
cheers fellas

Narc
17-09-2007, 22:13
Nice!

Sloth
18-09-2007, 10:03
ai, your numbers are looking very nice lately cap.

madcap
18-09-2007, 11:56
cheers guys, bench progress is SLOW though

666
18-09-2007, 12:08
Maybe change up the sets / reps on your assistance, you'll probably be getting used to things more quickly doing 3x8 on most things. Maybe up the reps to 12s or something for some quick bulk?

madcap
19-09-2007, 19:33
OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x7

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

205x6x1

Skulls

bar x many

50x10, x2x8

Seated Row

15th pin x5x5

Cuff

chi
24-09-2007, 10:12
BORING POST ALERT - DO NOT BOTHER READING IF YOUR NOT MADCAP









Roars, why does Boots bottled water state "Do not refill or reuse" on the label?

plateau2
24-09-2007, 10:20
BORING POST ALERT - DO NOT BOTHER READING IF YOUR NOT MADCAP









Roars, why does Boots bottled water state "Do not refill or reuse" on the label?

Couldn't help reading it after you said that! Quite a lot of bottles say that, think it's the type of plastic some breakdown over time.

cruffle
24-09-2007, 10:39
yep, certain plastic bottles, most in fact, leech chemicals into the water over time.

Sloth
24-09-2007, 13:03
pah, it because they are capitolist ****s who want you to buy new bottles of water every time you go to the gym thus reeping the rewards.

Tricky
24-09-2007, 16:38
both above posts imo are true...

they DO degrade, but it takes ****ing AGES.

CheeseOnToast
24-09-2007, 20:31
Actually wrong, it happens quickly, google plasticides in the blood stream.

There have been a lot of tests from people heating up tupperware and drinking over and over same bottle and they have mad levels of plasticides in them.

Buy 1 decent bottle for sports and need not worry though eh?

madcap
24-09-2007, 20:31
yeah both of them are most likely true, as if I was gonna walk all the way over to the food department to ask that...

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x1

110x5x3

last rep was a super grind, arse prob came off the bench

Paused DB Bench

32.5x2x8, 7F

WG Chins

BWx3x8

was hard

NG Seated Row

15th pin x 5 x5

madcap
25-09-2007, 19:41
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x6
100x4
140x1

152.5x3 / 157.5x3 / 162.5x3 *PB*

such a grinder that last set, kinda disappointed, so many reasons for this though

Pullthroughs

4x10

one of the guys who work at my gym then commented "all the gear (pointing at my squat shoes), no idea" in reference to the exercise i had just done, then had an argument with him about Pullthroughs, which reminds me of a thread i wanted to start somewhere else...

Sloth
26-09-2007, 12:09
nice pb though!! turn your headphones up, that way he wont annoy you.

madcap
27-09-2007, 18:21
Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

205x3x3 *PB*

wanted to do some box squats after this but someone nicked the rack while i was lying in a pool of sweat, damn those deads were hard!

Played around with some hack squats after this, nothing notable

Tone C
27-09-2007, 19:10
Nice PB.

LA
27-09-2007, 19:15
Nice deads dude :023: . What you weighting atm?

madcap
28-09-2007, 16:20
cheers guys! somewhere between 95 and 100kg

Narc
28-09-2007, 16:20
**** off. You need to get some scales that work you fat ****.

madcap
28-09-2007, 16:24
the 100kg reading is from the scales in my gym, at the end of the day, clothes on

the 95 is my own scales, morning after piss & shit, on empty stomach and in my pants

Narc
28-09-2007, 16:24
You need to eat then you skinny ****, and grow some ****ing legs.

madcap
08-10-2007, 22:49
nice week off training...

Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x1
110x2x3

T&G - 100x5

Paused DB Bench

30x3x8

WG Chins

BWx3x8

45 Row

11th pin x5x5

JingPuerh
10-10-2007, 13:16
my own scales, morning after piss & shit, on empty stomach and in my pants

What a beautiful image! :eek:

madcap
13-10-2007, 14:23
been ill, still ill

Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

200x4x1

weak.

Box Squats

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x3

120x3
130x3
140x3

DMPM
13-10-2007, 14:37
What's your deadlift PB?

madcap
13-10-2007, 14:41
227.5

DMPM
13-10-2007, 18:59
You should be good for something like then 210x4x1 then. What were you planning to do?

madcap
14-10-2007, 03:49
exactly what i was thinking, i wanted to play about with 200 though, seeing as i've had a week off plus time off from bein ill

madcap
15-10-2007, 20:37
Inc BB bench

60x8
70x8
80x8
90x7F

followed by...

Bench

60x15
80x10

Paused DB Bench

30x3x7

WG Chins

BWx3x8

One arm DB Rows

40kgx4x6

PikeKing
15-10-2007, 20:40
i always find incline benching a bitch, like it though

madcap
15-10-2007, 20:57
yeah, it felt weird, never done it before, got the plane completely wrong on the 1st set and nearly lost the bar! when I went back to regular bench, the bar felt miles away

Sloth
15-10-2007, 23:45
same here, incline bench is awkward as ****. nice number you got on it though mate :023:

madcap
16-10-2007, 20:34
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x1

150x3 / 155x3 / 160x3

Pullthroughs

4x10

JingPuerh
17-10-2007, 22:29
Those squats are looking pretty tasty. How deep you going (in the squat that is?). Thighs parallel or ATG?

madcap
17-10-2007, 22:51
Past parrallel. i can rest at the bottom, but I'm not sure I could truely call them ATG

madcap
18-10-2007, 19:44
CG Bench

bar x many
60x12

85x3x8

OHP

bar x many
40x5

60x3x5

Seated Row

15th pin x5x5

Skulls

bar x many

50x2x7, 5F

madcap
20-10-2007, 14:59
Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

205x6x1

Box Squat

bar x many

60x5
100x3
120x3x3

wanted to go light cos groin's been a bit funny recently

Cuff

PMSHx3x8

666
20-10-2007, 16:26
Pressing session looked pretty easy for you?

CheeseOnToast
20-10-2007, 16:34
I hear those groin injuries can be well nasty !! Get it sorted mate :046:

madcap
21-10-2007, 11:04
Pressing session looked pretty easy for you?

yeah, hadn't done any over head or tri work for a while and still had DOMS from Monday

I hear those groin injuries can be well nasty !! Get it sorted mate :046:

difference is, mine isn't AIDS related :023:

madcap
22-10-2007, 20:19
Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

100x2
105x2
110x2
115x2F

Paused DB Bench

30x3x8

WG Chins

BWx2x10, 9F *PB*

45 Row

11th pin x 5 x5

madcap
23-10-2007, 19:46
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x6
100x4
140x1

145x3 / 150x3 / 155x3

think i've pulled a groin muscle

Pullthroughs

4x12

madcap
25-10-2007, 19:05
CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

90x3x8

Seated DB Press

30x3x6

NG Seated Row

15th pin x 5 x 6 *PB*

Skulls

50x7, 6F

shite, pushdowns from next week

madcap
26-10-2007, 19:53
Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

207.5x4x2 *PB*

Cuff

PMSHx3x8

madcap
29-10-2007, 20:11
Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5
100x2
105x2
110x2
112.5x2 *PB*

embarrassed to call that a PB

Paused DB Bench

32.5x3x8 *PB*

felt stupid easy

WG Chins

BWx10 , x2x10F

45 Row

11th pin x 5 x 6

madcap
30-10-2007, 20:44
Exercise Bike

5 Mins

Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x1

150x3 / 155x3 / 160x1 / 165x1

ATK Rack Pulls

100x3
140x3
180x3
200x3
220x3
240x3

ATZ
30-10-2007, 21:19
None of them a PB?

madcap
30-10-2007, 21:33
the rack pulls maybe

madcap
01-11-2007, 19:23
Seated DB Press

30x3x7

CG Bench

bar x many
60x10

90x3x6

Seated Rows

15th pin x 6 x 6 *PB*

Pushdowns

8th pin x 3 x 8

madcap
02-11-2007, 19:09
Deadlift

100x4
140x2
180x1

210x6x1 *PB*

Cuff

PMSHx3x8

webcore
02-11-2007, 19:22
What's "ATK"?

madcap
02-11-2007, 19:39
at the knee

cruffle
02-11-2007, 21:31
i always thought it was "above the knee"

madcap
02-11-2007, 22:36
so did I, the letter A works in mysterious ways :ninja:

madcap
05-11-2007, 19:48
Paused Bench

bar x many
60x5
80x5

102.5x2
107.5x2
112.5x2
115x2 *PB*

Paused DB Bench

35x3x7 *PB*

WG Chins

BWx3x10 *PB*

45 Row

11th pin x 4 x 5

Tone C
05-11-2007, 21:14
kudos on PB.

madcap
05-11-2007, 21:23
Grazi!

madcap
06-11-2007, 19:13
Oly Squat

bar x many
60x8
100x4
140x1

155x3x3

ATK Rack Pull

140x3
180x3
200x3
220x3
240x3

DMPM
06-11-2007, 19:15
That's some nice Oly squatting.

Narc
06-11-2007, 19:31
Pfffft, anything less than 4x3 is totally gay man.

madcap
06-11-2007, 20:55
haha thans Joel, gotta agree with Tim though... slightly!

reckon i'd have more too if it wasnt for my gammy groin reducing the amount of drive in the hole

madcap
08-11-2007, 19:56
Push Press

bar x many
40x5

60 x 1 / 70 x 1 / 80 x 1 / 90 x 1 / 100 x F

not too annoyed with this, hardly had any leg drive as my right knee was ****ed today so was more of a bounce to get the bar off my chest then lock the rest out

CG Bench

bar x many
60x10
80x2

90x3x6

NG Seated Row

15th pin x 4 x 8 *PB*

Pushdowns

9th pin x 3 x 7