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BFT
22-03-2007, 11:13
Right guys, my schedule is increasinly hectic and I have less and less time to train. What are thoughts on lifting immediatly before MA sessions?

Moday
Lifting 1 hour, Muay Thai 2 hours

Tues: Rest

Wed
Muay Thai

Thurs
Lifting 1 hour, BJJ 2hours

Fri: Rest

Sat BJJ 2 hours (not every week)

Sunday
HST or Rest.

I'm trying to thrash out a new schedule and get my diet in order, following Alex's diet program and getting all kinds of awesome in time for summer. MA training is going ok but im struggling to find time for lifting.
HardcoreSportsTraining
22-03-2007, 11:22
First question would be, why is lifting 1 hour?
BFT
22-03-2007, 12:07
Thats how long I think it would take me to get it all done, inc movement prep and pre/re hab work. I would try to do the same routine i was on before:
A)
Movement Prep

Split squats 5*5
Dips 5*5
rows 5*5

hanging scap retractions 3*12
cubans 3*12
angel wings 3*12


B)
Movement Prep

Cleans 5*5
Vertical Pushups 5*5
Chins 5*5

Face Pulls 3*12
L flies 3*12
scap pushups 3*12
Tricky
22-03-2007, 16:04
why not do that 300 workout? That takes 15-20min...
BFT
22-03-2007, 16:32
Because I can't....watched the flick last night though...looking at the results I wish I could.

TBH, **** it, i think its more important I just get in the gym and do something rather than trying to optimise what is currently nothing!
HardcoreSportsTraining
22-03-2007, 16:52
why not do that 300 workout? That takes 15-20min...
Well, they only did it once...
chi
22-03-2007, 17:53
why not do that 300 workout? That takes 15-20min...

what is this 300 workout you speak of??
HardcoreSportsTraining
22-03-2007, 18:12
www.google.com
CheeseOnToast
22-03-2007, 18:54
Nice link Al ;)

I also wondered about lifting before MA session - I take it I should be fine doing weights the day before Muay Thai?
PikeKing
22-03-2007, 20:57
you'd probably find you're ok lifting before trainnig as long as u are fueled, unless u do a particularly hard session the effects of the workout probably wont of kicked in that quick
kinkymisspinky
22-03-2007, 22:21
If I could only do weights directly before MA and I'd turn up at the end of the warmup/conditioning part of the class, do a bit of movement prep. and go straight into technique practice.
kinkymisspinky
22-03-2007, 22:25
I also wondered about lifting before MA session - I take it I should be fine doing weights the day before Muay Thai?

Thats fine. For me, MA affects lifting more than lifting affects MA.
BFT
23-03-2007, 10:00
It's settled then, lifting will be done before Muay Thai on Mondays, and before BJJ on Thursday. I will let you all know how i get on so you can benefit from my experiances.

I will be on a very high protein diet, with low carbs, breakfast and post workout only for direct carbs to be honest. I will be supplementing it up like a mother bitch too.

I will be adding photos to my journal too for you all to marvel at.
chi
23-03-2007, 10:31
www.google.com

cheers!
http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=35
Bullneck Pacifist Gimboid
23-03-2007, 10:45
quote from that link

"mission statement: appearance is a consequence of fitness"

Now THAT I like...
chi
23-03-2007, 11:03
quote from that link

"mission statement: appearance is a consequence of fitness"

Now THAT I like...


i thought the same, thinking i finish ridculing VH and changing my sig
ATZ
23-03-2007, 11:07
I wish I'd have been in that god damn film - imagine how ripped you'd have been after that training - it looked brutal.
CheeseOnToast
24-03-2007, 07:10
I will be on a very high protein diet, with low carbs, breakfast and post workout only for direct carbs to be honest.


Surely you're going to need PRE w/o carbs?
HardcoreSportsTraining
24-03-2007, 12:41
I will be on a very high protein diet, with low carbs, breakfast and post workout only for direct carbs to be honest.
Surely you're going to need PRE w/o carbs?
Assuming your understanding of the first statement is true, which it isn't, but for the sake of this point we'll say it is.......why would he need carbs pre workout?
HardcoreSportsTraining
24-03-2007, 12:51
Also, the protocol calls for peri-workout drink which wasnt mentioned
CheeseOnToast
24-03-2007, 15:48
What do you mean? Direct carbs pre WO to give you energy and fuel it? Plus if you don't have carbs it will deplete your glycogen stores even faster, and the body will try and use as much of the protein in your body as possible for fuel.. ?
HardcoreSportsTraining
24-03-2007, 16:01
Protein or fat

The body can store 600g of glycogen, whether that's enough to fuel 1 training session I dunno.........I would assume so
CheeseOnToast
25-03-2007, 07:15
Does the body chose fat over protein in preference for energy?
madcap
25-03-2007, 10:27
i wouldve thought so, since protein is for rebuilding and repair...
Bullneck Pacifist Gimboid
25-03-2007, 11:38
It depends on how long the fat has been stored, and how long the protein has been around for - basically it takes some energy to access the body's energy reserves to generate energy (if that makes sense), so it chooses the most accessible reserves for what it needs at that time - hence why when you're cutting, the flab round your waist (for blokes) and hips (for the ladies) is the last to go, it's cause it's where the body stored it first so it's the hardest to break down.