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As you may know from my journal i can not train my lower body for the next few weeks.
Is there any benefit therefore from training in any particular manner, i am currently thinking of a horizontal and vertical split.
Also would it be beneficial to do one legged leg press or would this increase any imbalance i am already likely to suffer?
Cheers
Chris
PikeKing
26-02-2007, 09:11
if it was me i would push/pull, 2 days on 1 day off, repeat
i would do single squats, never leg press
PikeKing
26-02-2007, 09:26
if u go back to may/june time in my journal you'll see how i did this, i gained quite a bit of size too, tho size isnt everything :037:
Opportunity arrises...
you could be a human guinea pig for the theory (?) that the body has the ability to grow sympathetically, i.e. that if you (for example) train only your right arm, your left arm will grow synergistically (given the right eat/rest conditions etc).
In fact i belive its not simply a theory but proven fact, Alex or Andy will no doubt be able to confirm/deny.
If it does work you could end up with (e.g.) massive quads despite the break. If it dont you would just have one massive freaky quad and one skinny atrophied one...which would be cool an all.
CheeseOnToast
26-02-2007, 18:35
I would probably do push, off, pull, off
Rather than doing two days in a row..
Opportunity arrises...
you could be a human guinea pig for the theory (?) that the body has the ability to grow sympathetically, i.e. that if you (for example) train only your right arm, your left arm will grow synergistically (given the right eat/rest conditions etc).
In fact i belive its not simply a theory but proven fact, Alex or Andy will no doubt be able to confirm/deny.
If it does work you could end up with (e.g.) massive quads despite the break. If it dont you would just have one massive freaky quad and one skinny atrophied one...which would be cool an all.
i have heard about this before, although probably in no greater detail than what you jsut said. tried to do some pistols and felt that my knee cap was about to explode
HardcoreSportsTraining
26-02-2007, 19:54
Sounds like you are sitting too far forward, I tend to do that too at the moment.
Also I would disagree with PK in this case about the 'never leg press'. I'm all for single leg training with free weights etc but if you are unsure of balance and the option of anything going wrong is 'putting the other foot down and breaking the ankle again', it may be sensible to use a machine. Of course there is the option of holding onto something to stabilise etc also...
Another point is that you can't break an ankle, it is another blanket term for, generally a broken bone in the lower leg, so depending on which bone - and whereabouts in the leg - you may be able to still do leg ext/leg curls with the bad leg
I would probably do push, off, pull, off
Rather than doing two days in a row..
interesting point, i'll give it the consideration it deserves as you are the expert in upper body only training :kinky:
Sounds like you are sitting too far forward, I tend to do that too at the moment.
i agree that is probably where i am going wrong
Another point is that you can't break an ankle, it is another blanket term for, generally a broken bone in the lower leg, so depending on which bone - and whereabouts in the leg - you may be able to still do leg ext/leg curls with the bad leg
i have a non displaced fracture (crack) in the bottom of my fibula
HardcoreSportsTraining
26-02-2007, 20:12
I wouldn't like to be associated with the recommendation, but I'd probably try it...
I wouldn't like to be associated with the recommendation, but I'd probably try it...
i'll bare it in mind, although i'll probably just grab a lift to the gym when ever i can, being i can't drive either.
HardcoreSportsTraining
26-02-2007, 20:23
Not sure what that's got to do with training your leg on machines, but ok...
Not sure what that's got to do with training your leg on machines, but ok...
i thought you were endorsing cheese on toasts recommendation about push, off, pull, off..... rather than push, pull, off....
PikeKing
26-02-2007, 21:02
Also I would disagree with PK in this case
you always were an idiot
HardcoreSportsTraining
26-02-2007, 21:05
I'll assume that was a joke and not type any of the replies I am currently thinking
I would probably do push, off, pull, off
Rather than doing two days in a row..
I prefer the push-pull-off - your way you can't train as frequently and there's a lot less strain from just upper body work so you can probably cope with the extra work.
CheeseOnToast
27-02-2007, 11:08
I prefer the push-pull-off - your way you can't train as frequently and there's a lot less strain from just upper body work so you can probably cope with the extra work.
I wasn't referring to it in terms of coping.
I just feel that say your push day is
Bench/OHP/accessory/cuff etc
and your pull is Rows/Chins
I would just expect you to be weaker and more fatigued on the second day..
Tbh I've found it doesn't make that much difference. Plus if it's consistant you'll just get used to it and improve anyway.
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