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Scourge
20-06-2005, 22:49
**** it. I'm not training legs. It's too frustrating.

Arms are the new legs and my OH strength is what really needs working on.

100kg here I come.

the block
20-06-2005, 22:53
cool.. a journal dedicated to OHP...

but why no legs? is that complete clampdown on squatting or just "bugger it for now"

Scourge
20-06-2005, 22:55
20/06/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 5x30, 3x50, 1x60, 5x65, 4x5x70, 5x67.5, 5x60, 5x50
Chins - 3x5xbw
Inverted sit-ups - 3x5xbw

Working reps: 41
Working tonnage: 2672.5kg
Working intensity: 76.69%

Felt like some volume.

Scourge
20-06-2005, 23:00
cool.. a journal dedicated to OHP...

but why no legs? is that complete clampdown on squatting or just "bugger it for now"
I can't make depth and I have no idea why. I did an absolute shitload of stretching to try to sort it out, I got massively more flexible, but it didn't do sweet FA for my depth. I seem to be incredibly tight in a strange muscle that doesn't appear on any anatomical chart I've ever seen and which nobody else seems to have.

Oh... and my wide squat is, for whatever reason, deeper than my narrow squat.

In short, it's a ****ing mystery which I just cannot be bothered with for the moment.

Man of Steel
20-06-2005, 23:07
If you can't make depth on a narrow squat why don't you wide squat and do some extra quad work?

LA
20-06-2005, 23:10
Look forward to seeing your 100kg OHP :035:

Scourge
20-06-2005, 23:12
If you can't make depth on a narrow squat why don't you wide squat and do some extra quad work?
I can't reach depth on anything. Ever.

Edit - Thanks Lactic.

the block
20-06-2005, 23:13
what about sitting on the toilet? (seriously)

Scourge
20-06-2005, 23:16
what about sitting on the toilet? (seriously)
No problem there, but I haven't seen many powerlifting federations offering the 'sitting on the shitter lift' in place of the squat.

the block
20-06-2005, 23:17
damn! there goes my dream of being elite then!

Scourge
22-06-2005, 09:18
21/06/05

OHP (B2) - some x many x 10

Doms. DOMS. Doms.

Tricky
22-06-2005, 18:56
cool journal.

do it.

P.S whats the routine/plan?

Scourge
23-06-2005, 10:12
22/06/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 5x30, 5x40, (DE>) 2x50, 8x2x57.5
Chins - 3x5xbw

Could've been quicker. Still sore though.

Scourge
23-06-2005, 10:19
cool journal.

do it.

P.S whats the routine/plan?
Thanks.

Nothing too specific right now. Something like:

Monday: Volume x loads
Wednesday: Speed and/or technique work
Friday: Heavy singles and maybe some partials.

Throw in some light technique stuff when I remember.

uk machine
24-06-2005, 14:03
i got a bad feeling ur gonna snake the 100kg! bastard! btw how does your lower back feel afterwards? ive had my training partners whine like little ****s cus i stand and do it, claiming it will mess up there backs.ive had no bother with it, i think its just them leaning so far back they are trying to bench it up

Scourge
24-06-2005, 15:15
i got a bad feeling ur gonna snake the 100kg! bastard! btw how does your lower back feel afterwards? ive had my training partners whine like little ****s cus i stand and do it, claiming it will mess up there backs.ive had no bother with it, i think its just them leaning so far back they are trying to bench it up
Haha... Working on it. Singles today.

Back is fine. Tell them to stop being such pansies and build some shoulder strength - They're probably trying to bench it up 'cos their delts are weak.

Rogue_zero
24-06-2005, 16:09
your all doing well, but my monies on Scourgey

Scourge
24-06-2005, 16:31
your all doing well, but my monies on Scourgey
Thanks.

Personally, I think the dark horse of the comp. is definitely Big Al - He's a big guy, he's got a lot of strongman experience and he's hit 100kg overhead before now methinks. His 1RM has dropped enough to let him in the comp. because of time taken out of training, but muscle memory is a wonderful thing.

Scourge
25-06-2005, 10:35
24/06/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 1x60, 1x70, 1x80, 1x85, 2x1x82.5, 1x80
Pin Press (B2) - 3x50, 1x60, 2x1x70, 2x1x80
Chins (B2) - 3x3xbw

Sub-max singles. Technique needs working on.

Working reps: 7
Working tonnage: 540kg
Working Intensity: 90.76%

Scourge
27-06-2005, 22:29
27/06/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 5x60, 5x65, 5x70, 5x72.5, 5x70, 5x67.5, 5x62.5, 5x60
Chins - 5xbw, 2x5x(+5)
Inverted sit-ups - 5xbw

Working Reps: 40
Working Tonnage: 2637.5kg
Working Intensity: 77.57%

Tired. Ill. Feel weak, but technique improving slowly. Inverted sit-ups hurt. I think half of my head has gone septic.

Scourge
28-06-2005, 21:59
28/06/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x30, 2x40, 2x50, 2x2x60

Technique.

uk machine
29-06-2005, 16:40
scourge, is there actually a certain technique to OHP? If so you wouldnt mind sharing would ya :016: :023: . all i can think of is tight core, elbows kept forward im stumped really for anything else :017:

Scourge
29-06-2005, 16:55
scourge, is there actually a certain technique to OHP? If so you wouldnt mind sharing would ya :016: :023: . all i can think of is tight core, elbows kept forward im stumped really for anything else :017:
Yay! A post!

I can't imagine there's no technique to OH pressing if people can spend literally years perfecting other pressing lifts (bench, split jerk etc.), but I expect nobody's really got much to say about OH press technique is that it's not a competitive lift (strongmen do lots of OH lifts, but they're normally jerks and push press, and having so many events to practice, don't have the time to be so anal about technique as PLs and WLs).

What I'm working on is pretty basic atm - I've been tending to blast the bar away from me on the way up i.e. weight comes up hard off my chest but away from me, hits my mini-max, hovers there for a second or so while I pull it back towards me then I grind out the rep once it comes back into the groove. I've been working on keeping the bar close to me without wanging myself in the face with it and pulling it back over my head once it's clear.

Scourge
29-06-2005, 23:31
29/06/05

OHP (B1) - 6x20, 3x40, 2x50 (DE>) 8x2x57.5
Chins - 5xbw, 2x5x(+5)

Speed improving.

666
30-06-2005, 13:34
DE ohp! Watch your chin on the way up ha ha!

Scourge
30-06-2005, 13:56
DE ohp! Watch your chin on the way up ha ha!
I'm more worried about breaking my nose tbh.

Narc
30-06-2005, 14:07
I very nearly did a few weeks back, lots of blood

Robert
30-06-2005, 15:23
Where is your mini max?

Scourge
30-06-2005, 15:24
Where is your mini max?
About forehead height.

Robert
30-06-2005, 15:25
Figures.

Use chains maybe??? and do lots of what you're doing.*

*full rom classic lifts.

Looking good anyways Ian, keep it up.

Scourge
30-06-2005, 15:41
Figures.

Huh? Wazzat mean?


Use chains maybe??? and do lots of what you're doing.*

*full rom classic lifts.

Looking good anyways Ian, keep it up.
Bloody 'ell - That almost sounds like praise. You ill mate? :016:

Haven't bother getting any chains yet. Could use bands I suppose - Done band OHP a few times and it's bloody hard work.

Robert
30-06-2005, 15:56
Huh? Wazzat mean?
99% of people, myself included, fail there. not a lot you can do really. if you make your dselts stronger you will still fail there,a nd iof you make your triceps stronger you will be able to lockout more thna you can push to that height, which is useless. training your weakness is a catch 22 really. eliminating one opens up another.

hence why i like full rom classic lifts. that way you strneghen every concievable joint angle all at once. meaning you will always mini max there, but that doesn't mean your 1RM will stay the same.

Bloody 'ell - That almost sounds like praise. You ill mate? :016:

Haven't bother getting any chains yet. Could use bands I suppose - Done band OHP a few times and it's bloody hard work.

it is praise. you put lots of effort in and it seems to paying off.

Scourge
30-06-2005, 16:45
99% of people, myself included, fail there. not a lot you can do really. if you make your dselts stronger you will still fail there,a nd iof you make your triceps stronger you will be able to lockout more thna you can push to that height, which is useless. training your weakness is a catch 22 really. eliminating one opens up another.

Ah... Gotcha.

I know what you mean - There's not a lot you can do to train that join angle in unis et seperato, but I'm hoping some speed work might help me blast through that area.


hence why i like full rom classic lifts. that way you strneghen every concievable joint angle all at once. meaning you will always mini max there, but that doesn't mean your 1RM will stay the same.

Sure, although I think that a combination of full ROM lifts and partial movements can, in some cases and if used correctly, be more effective than using full ROM lifts all the time, as the combination would allow you to train the full ROM of the lift and your specific weak points harder for a given amount of 'work done'.

However, as my weak points seem to be 'the whole damn lift', lots of full ROM work is what I'm doing.


it is praise. you put lots of effort in and it seems to paying off.
Fair enough. Thanks.

Robert
30-06-2005, 16:52
me and ian agree enitely

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Scourge
02-07-2005, 00:55
01/07/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 1x50, 2x60, 2x70, 2x75, 2x80, 1x87.5, Fx90
OHP Walkouts - 1x95, 1x100, 1x105, 1x110
Chins - 3x5xbw

Working Volume: 9 reps
Working Tonnage: 657.5kg
Working Intensity: 85.94%

Felt stronger today than earlier this week. Illness going away, I hope. Technique on 87.5 was shite, but it went up. Need more technique and speed work.

the block
02-07-2005, 15:07
brilliant OHP! (more virtual brown nosing)

seriously - thats very good.

Scourge
02-07-2005, 22:18
brilliant OHP! (more virtual brown nosing)

seriously - thats very good.
Thanks mate...

666
02-07-2005, 23:32
OHP walkouts! Ha ha! That's quite cool actually.

Scourge
02-07-2005, 23:42
OHP walkouts! Ha ha! That's quite cool actually.
I thought so too - Whenever I go for a new max, I always unrack the weight, think 'fook me, this is heavy', then try and press it. The idea behind them is to get me acclimatised to the heavier weights - If I'm walking out at 110kg, next time I have a shot at a max, 90kg should feel like nothing.

666
02-07-2005, 23:49
Yeah same here... Maybe I'll do some of them as well, for sh1ts and giggles etc.

Icepick
03-07-2005, 09:37
I thought so too - Whenever I go for a new max, I always unrack the weight, think 'fook me, this is heavy', then try and press it. The idea behind them is to get me acclimatised to the heavier weights - If I'm walking out at 110kg, next time I have a shot at a max, 90kg should feel like nothing.

Thinking of trying this myself as I want to get serious with my ohp,but I cant think that apart from hurting my wrist,I cant see how its going to help me with pressing the weight.

666
03-07-2005, 10:43
I think it's mostly psychological, i.e. when you've got your new max in your hands you're thinking "I'm gonna press this b@stard" rather than "Holy crap this is heavy".

Icepick
03-07-2005, 11:13
I think it's mostly psychological, i.e. when you've got your new max in your hands you're thinking "I'm gonna press this b@stard" rather than "Holy crap this is heavy".

Fair enough,either way if you are not capable of pressing the weight,you wont,but I'll still give it a go tho.

Scourge
03-07-2005, 11:26
It should make you stronger of the bottom of the lift, same way that training bench with a pause on the chest makes you stronger off the chest, if you revert back to benching touch and go.

Also, the walkout takes a fair bit out of you I find, so getting stronger at holding the weight there should help that too.

uk machine
03-07-2005, 22:03
theres some good ohp going on here. yep i was doing pp with 100kg to get me accostmed (spacka spl i know) to the weight. i didnt want to max then think 'oh fack' an then proceed to shit myself. if i miss a lift i get mental blocks at that weight. i need to get to confidence before i max

Scourge
04-07-2005, 00:49
theres some good ohp going on here. yep i was doing pp with 100kg to get me accostmed (spacka spl i know) to the weight. i didnt want to max then think 'oh fack' an then proceed to shit myself. if i miss a lift i get mental blocks at that weight. i need to get to confidence before i max
I'm hearing ya...

That's a nice PP.

Scourge
05-07-2005, 09:40
04/07/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x20, 1x50, 5x60, 5x70, 2x5x72.5, 5x70

Working Volume: 25 reps
Working Tonnage: 1725kg
Working Intensity: 78.86%

Screwed this one up good and proper. Didn't start training until almost midnight, hence the low volume, but I'll make up for it on Friday. Feeling tired and run down atm, so I was quite pleased with the weights.

uk machine
05-07-2005, 11:07
still, good going
:023:

Scourge
05-07-2005, 21:15
05/07/05

OHP (B1) - 3x10x20

Technique work.

Thanks uk_m.

the block
05-07-2005, 21:30
how are you working out the working intensity?

Scourge
05-07-2005, 21:44
how are you working out the working intensity?
Working tonnage/(no. working reps x 1RM).

the block
05-07-2005, 22:06
cool. maths.

Scourge
05-07-2005, 22:10
cool. maths.
It's a pain, I know, but it's probably more accurate than pulling a random number out of my ass.

the block
05-07-2005, 22:12
and less painful too (unless they're really teeny weeny numbers that dont go into double figures)

Tricky
06-07-2005, 19:54
...you've been doing this a few (3?) weeks now mate. Its mostly lowish reps i know, but do you now have the tri's and delts of a barbarian?

Scourge
06-07-2005, 20:12
...you've been doing this a few (3?) weeks now mate. Its mostly lowish reps i know, but do you now have the tri's and delts of a barbarian?
Lowish reps? Five is high reps where I'm at...

Shoulders and tris are growing, although perhaps not yet worthy or a barbarian.

This routine is gonna get hella barbaric from next week though.

Scourge
06-07-2005, 22:55
06/07/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 2x50, 2x55 (DE>) 8x2x60
Chins - 5xbw, 5x(+5), 5x(+7.5), 5x(+5)
Inverted sit-ups - 3x5xbw

OHP was pretty quick. All good.

Scourge
08-07-2005, 22:48
08/07/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 3x60, 3x70, 3x75, 3x80
Chins - 3x5xbw
Inverted sit-ups - 3x5xbw

Working Volume: 12 reps
Working Tonnage: 855kg
Working Intensity: 81.43%

Easy session. Treating this week as a deload. Next week is going to be hard work.

uk machine
09-07-2005, 16:36
do u plan your workouts out scourge? if so what is it for next week?

Scourge
09-07-2005, 18:10
I plan sets/reps. Weights are as much as I can lift on the day. Assistance work is sometimes instinctive.

Next week onwards.

Monday - 8x5

Wednesday - DE 6x2-3 + some heavy singles

Friday - 8x5

Maybe taper the reps/set down on Friday as I approach 80x5.

Scourge
11-07-2005, 22:55
11/07/2005

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 5x60, 5x65, 5x70, 2x5x72.5, 5x70, 5x67.5, 5x65
Curls (B2) - 5x10, 5x30, 2x5x40
Inverted sit-ups 2x5xbw

Working Reps: 40
Working Tonnage: 2712.5kg
Working Intensity: 77.5%

Eating has been good, sleeping sh1te, so happy with today. Training density is well up also. Triceps need working on.

Narc
11-07-2005, 22:58
What are you weighing at the moment?

Scourge
11-07-2005, 23:04
What are you weighing at the moment?
About 83ish.

Narc
11-07-2005, 23:07
Cool, 100kg ohp at that weight is/will be awesome, what's your plan afterwards?

Scourge
11-07-2005, 23:16
Start dipping. Maybe take another shot at working out wtf is wrong with my squatting.

Narc
11-07-2005, 23:20
Cool, would be good to see you back training fully again....

Scourge
14-07-2005, 00:00
13/07/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 2x50 (DE>) 2x55, 2x60, 8x2x62.5
SoG Press (B1) - 5x20, 5x30, 5x40, 5x50, 3x5x55
Chins - 5xbw, 2x5x(+5)
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

Shit session. Weights up, but no real focus and it seemed to take forever to get through it all. Need sleep. On the plus side, I did come up with an assistance exercise for OHP which rules.

PikeKing
14-07-2005, 00:02
whats this SoG press?

Scourge
14-07-2005, 00:15
whats this SoG press?
Not that special actually. An overhead JM press really, whanging the bar off your bonce at the bottom position.

Scourge
16-07-2005, 12:20
15/07/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 5x60, 5x67.5, 5x72.5, 5x75, 5x77.5, 5x75, 5x72.5, 5x72.5
Curls (B2) - 5x10, 5x30
Inverted sit-ups - 3x5xbw

Working Reps: 40
Working Tonnage: 2862.5kg
Working Intensity: 81.79%, 68.57%<i<88.57%
Busted Backs: 1

Eating bad over the last two days and not slept properly for the last 9-10 days but it seems I can do no wrong on this routine. 77.5kg is +5kg on my 5RM, thank you very much. Curls giving my right forearm a bit of gyp, so I left them there. Good session.

Downside is that I stacked it in the shower afterwards and nearly impaled my spine on the bath tap. Not sure if this will put me out for a while.

Fred
16-07-2005, 12:24
wohoo 100kg isnt far off now

Scourge
16-07-2005, 12:36
wohoo 100kg isnt far off now
Hell yeah. If you take your 5RM as 80%1RM, I should put 95kg overhead soon.

Of course calculating you 1RM by formula is infamously inaccurate, but don't say it loudly...

666
16-07-2005, 17:24
Gees, you're making really quick progress with this. I suppose it's all you're doing, but still. :038:

Scourge
16-07-2005, 18:59
Gees, you're making really quick progress with this. I suppose it's all you're doing, but still. :038:
Thanks... Progress has been surpisingly good. At this rate I'll be good for 100kg in the next few weeks. Not sure if I'll be able to keep it up though.

Hallsy
16-07-2005, 19:36
Looking seriosuly good there, surely the 100kg 1RM isn't far off at all.
Probably being stupid here but have to ask, what does the B1, B2 and DE mean?

Scourge
16-07-2005, 19:44
Looking seriosuly good there, surely the 100kg 1RM isn't far off at all.
Probably being stupid here but have to ask, what does the B1, B2 and DE mean?
Here's hoping...

B1 is a regular oly bar. B2 is a 2" thick barbell courtesy of Bengdogg Enterprises Inc.. DE is 'dynamic effort' i.e submaximal weights lifted with maximal acceleration.

uk machine
17-07-2005, 10:37
yep. id agree looking great. i think i may have to concede defeat, but im not gonna give up trying. im still in spain at the moment and it sucks that i cant train.

Scourge
17-07-2005, 12:15
yep. id agree looking great. i think i may have to concede defeat, but im not gonna give up trying. im still in spain at the moment and it sucks that i cant train.
Yeah... I'm a little surprised myself how well this is working. Not there yet though.

When you back from Spain?

Hallsy
17-07-2005, 18:52
Ah, had seen DE mentioned in other journals but wasn't really sure. I presume it is used to help with drive, so more of a PL thing?
Does training with the 2" barbell help with your pressing in general, or just your grip/forearm strength?

Scourge
17-07-2005, 22:13
Ah, had seen DE mentioned in other journals but wasn't really sure. I presume it is used to help with drive, so more of a PL thing?
Does training with the 2" barbell help with your pressing in general, or just your grip/forearm strength?
I'm sure DE training can be helpful for any strength goal. It trains a different area of your strength curve and allows you to build up some momentum to blast through your mini-max.

The 2" barbell works your wrists and your grip hard, it has no whip to help you off the bottom of the lift as it doesn't bend at all, it's harder to control and keep in your groove and it's a bastard to OHP because it's diameter means it needs to be that much further away from your body until it clears your head.

uk machine
18-07-2005, 11:01
tonight! :038: just waiting for ****ing bus now.sweating like a pig in this weather. :022:

Tricky
18-07-2005, 11:34
...yeah i was kinda wondering mate what your plans are once you have it. Are you gonna try maintain it (v.diff i'd have thought), forget about it and train everything equally again, or try to keep it high but simmering (90 or so)???

Also, you worried about imbalances at all with such a strong focus on vertical pushing? Maybe thats what your gonna do after, even it all out?

Scourge
18-07-2005, 13:44
...yeah i was kinda wondering mate what your plans are once you have it. Are you gonna try maintain it (v.diff i'd have thought), forget about it and train everything equally again, or try to keep it high but simmering (90 or so)???

Also, you worried about imbalances at all with such a strong focus on vertical pushing? Maybe thats what your gonna do after, even it all out?
I shouldn't think it'll be that difficult to maintain. I obviously will have difficulty maintaining the same level of progress if I broaden my training focus, although I may stick with it and see if I can out-OHP Rogue (bwahahaha... only an extra 30kg).

Imbalances may be an issue, although not so bad with OHP as with other lifts I would expect. You'd expect horrible imbalances from this level of dipping or benching without also doing a vast amount of rowing as well, but as OHPing uses all three heads of the delt, it shouldn't be so bad.

Also, my main assistance lift is chins, done in almost exactly the same style as a reverse OHP, so that should help.

At present, the plan is to maybe add a bit more variety to my upper body and take another shot at rehabbing my lower body, see if I can get back into squatting.

Scourge
18-07-2005, 22:39
18/07/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 5x70, 5x75, 5x80, 5x82.5, 5x77.5, 5x75, 5x72.5, 5x70
SoG Press (B1) - 5x20, 5x40, 5x50, 5x55, 5x50
Inverted sit-ups - 3x5xbw

Working Reps: 40
Working Tonnage: 3012.5kg
Working Intensity: 86.07%, 80.00%<i<94.29%

Another 5RM. 80kg was dead strict on all reps. 82.5kg was probably a little overenthusiastic and needed a push for reps 4 and 5, which killed me for all my remaining sets. Either way, weights are going up. Reps will be going down as of Friday.

Scourge
20-07-2005, 23:35
19/07/05

OHP (B2) - 3x10x10.

Technique.

Scourge
20-07-2005, 23:51
20/07/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 2x50, 2x60 (DE>) 8x2x65
SoG Press (B1/monster minis) - 5x20, 5x30, 5x35, 4x5x40
Chins - 3x5xbw

Not as fast as I'd like. Probably stick at this weight for next week. Any overhead work with bands sucks hard. My triceps may not forgive me before Friday.

Scourge
23-07-2005, 19:06
22/07/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 4x70, 4x75, 3x4x80, 4x77.5
Bent Rows (B2) - 5x50, 5x60, 3x5x70

Working Volume: 24 reps
Working Tonnage: 1850kg
Working Intensity: 88.10%, 80.00%<i<91.43%

Bah. Shit session. Had hoped for at least 82.5kg but my focus and my form let me down. The strength's all there but my form goes to shit as the weights go up. Just need a bit more practice at these heavy weights. 4x85 here I come.

uk machine
24-07-2005, 12:34
22/07/05

4x85 here I come.
that will be cool

Scourge
24-07-2005, 12:43
that will be cool
Hell yes it will...

Scourge
25-07-2005, 20:51
25/07/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 4x70, 4x75, 4x80

Bollocks. Crashed and burned today - Just wasn't happening. May also have pulled something in my neck.

Robert
26-07-2005, 14:00
25/07/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 4x70, 4x75, 4x80

Bollocks. Crashed and burned today - Just wasn't happening. May also have pulled something in my neck.
I'd say that was pretty ****ing sweet (80x4). Also, I am getting neck DOMS lately, I can't seem to stop it either. Help informs me it's just 'something to put up with you little fag', so quit your whining.

Scourge
26-07-2005, 14:07
I'd say that was pretty ****ing sweet (80x4). Also, I am getting neck DOMS lately, I can't seem to stop it either. Help informs me it's just 'something to put up with you little fag', so quit your whining.
I got 80x5 and 82.5x3 last week. I should have got 82.5x4 Friday and had a shot at 85x4 yesterday. Bugger it. I'm think I'm overreached, so I'll take the rest of the week easy.

I know DOMS when I feel it and this isn't it. Feels like a slight pull in the left side round the back. Dunno what the muscle group's called. Was fookin' painful yesterday but it's not too bad now. Should be OK in a few days.

Robert
26-07-2005, 14:14
Fair enough.

How much you weighing today?

Scourge
26-07-2005, 14:29
Fair enough.

How much you weighing today?
85ish methinks.

Fred
26-07-2005, 14:34
:022: you weigh the same as me!!!

Scourge
26-07-2005, 14:36
:022: you weigh the same as me!!!
Yeah? Haha...

I'm 5'11'' though.

Robert
26-07-2005, 14:36
85ish methinks.
Cool. Any plans..

Scourge
26-07-2005, 14:38
Cool. Any plans..
Keep eating?

Nah... I might take a break from eating once I hit that bastard 100kg, then introduce some diversity to my training (y'know, like more than one lift). I'm thinking of something built around power jerks, bent rows and dips, plus some tentative steps towards squatting.

Robert
26-07-2005, 14:48
Keep eating?

Nah... I might take a break from eating once I hit that bastard 100kg, then introduce some diversity to my training (y'know, like more than one lift). I'm thinking of something built around power jerks, bent rows and dips, plus some tentative steps towards squatting.
Power jerks!!!11 I ****ing told you these were the shizzle. Copying bastard.*

*Ok, so I am not the first person ever to have done them, but still.

Scourge
26-07-2005, 14:56
Power jerks!!!11 I ****ing told you these were the shizzle. Copying bastard.*

*Ok, so I am not the first person ever to have done them, but still.
You were talking about some Behind The Knee lift or some nonsense.

My thoughts behind them are that the ability to support some heavy-ass weights overhead is awesome and makes you a solid bastard. Since doing loads of OHP my torso has thickened out and I've got stretch marks on my butt (hurhurhur... insert your own sub-standard gay/buggery jokes here), despite doing no lower body work.

I'm also thinking a 140kg power jerk would rule.

Robert
26-07-2005, 15:00
You were talking about some Behind The Knee lift or some nonsense.

My thoughts behind them are that the ability to support some heavy-ass weights overhead is awesome and makes you a solid bastard. Since doing loads of OHP my torso has thickened out and I've got stretch marks on my butt (hurhurhur... insert your own sub-standard gay jokes here), despite doing no lower body work.

I'm also thinking a 140kg power jerk would rule.
**** off you gaylord. I said BTK when I meant BTN, and you know it.

You have stretch marks on your butt for reasons that cannot be explained. Though I suspect it has something to do with your love of elephants.

Scourge
26-07-2005, 15:08
**** off you gaylord. I said BTK when I meant BTN, and you know it.

God knows what you're ever talking about. :D


(hurhurhur... insert your own sub-standard gay/buggery jokes here)



You have stretch marks on your butt for reasons that cannot be explained. Though I suspect it has something to do with your love of elephants.

Never one to disappoint, are you?

Fred
26-07-2005, 15:16
Yeah? Haha...

I'm 5'11'' though.
i'm 6ft!

Scourge
26-07-2005, 15:20
i'm 6ft!
Aha... There was me thinking everyone else on the board was a short-ass.

In that case, consider yourself pwn3d. :028:

Fred
26-07-2005, 16:05
never :019:

Rogue_zero
26-07-2005, 16:50
im a midget giant

uk machine
27-07-2005, 09:45
You were talking about some Behind The Knee lift or some nonsense.

My thoughts behind them are that the ability to support some heavy-ass weights overhead is awesome and makes you a solid bastard. Since doing loads of OHP my torso has thickened out and I've got stretch marks on my butt (hurhurhur... insert your own sub-standard gay/buggery jokes here), despite doing no lower body work.

I'm also thinking a 140kg power jerk would rule.
not that i have got any strecth marks on my butt, but i feel my core is better. rest up mate, or i will be catching ya!! :040: well not any time soon

uk machine
27-07-2005, 09:46
im a midget giant
how tall?

Fred
27-07-2005, 09:56
not that i have got any strecth marks on my butt,

i do

they are the mark of a real man

uk machine
27-07-2005, 10:19
i do

they are the mark of a real man
haha :040:

Scourge
28-07-2005, 22:56
DE OHP (B2) - 5x20, 3x40, 3x50, 6x3x60
OHP (B2) - 1x70, 1x80, 1x85, 1x90

I'm supposed to be deloading this week so a max hadn't been in the plan, but when I hit 80 and then 85 and they were just so easy I couldn't really resist. 90 itself was piss as well. 100 will fall in no time.

Narc
28-07-2005, 23:22
uber

LA
29-07-2005, 10:45
Awesome!

uk machine
29-07-2005, 10:58
:025: looking good!!!**** :019: :040:

Tricky
29-07-2005, 12:37
oh man i wanna push 90 ad call it a piece of piss. Great work Ian. :026:

BengDogg
29-07-2005, 15:41
1x90!!!

Icepick
29-07-2005, 15:48
Good work man,you're too ahead on this

Black Knight
29-07-2005, 16:47
Impressive :038: :045:

Scourge
02-08-2005, 09:16
Thanks gents.

Scourge
02-08-2005, 09:25
01/08/2005

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 4x70, 4x77.5, 4x82.5, 4x85, 4x82.5, 4x75
Bent Rows (B2) - 5x50, 5x60, 5x70, 5x72.5, 5x70
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

Working Reps: 24
Working Tonnage: 1890kg
Working Intensity: 87.50%, 77.78%<i<94.44%

Feeling strong. New 4RM @ 82.5. 85 needed a slight shove on the last rep. I'll get it on Friday.

the block
02-08-2005, 16:39
your OHP has come on brilliantly. well done!

Scourge
04-08-2005, 09:35
03/08/05

DE OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50 (DE>) 3x60, 5x3x62.5
OHP (B2) - 1x75, 1x85, 1x92.5
Chins - 3x5xbw
Russian Twists - 5xbar, 5x5, 2x5x10

All easy enough, except the twists. Liking them.

Thanks block.

GoldenArrow
04-08-2005, 10:06
03/08/05

Russian Twists - 5xbar, 5x5, 2x5x10


Bar?

Er, what is your definition of a ruski twist?

Scourge
04-08-2005, 11:02
I don't have a medicine ball, so I use a bar because I'm hardcore.

Seriously though, I'm not the Russian twist where you lie on the floor and throw a weight about. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mm6.htm is what I'm doing. Maybe they're called something else.

http://www.defrancostraining.com/pics/pics_hs-male.htm has his guys doing 'Russian Twists', although it looks kinda like a landmine.

GoldenArrow
04-08-2005, 14:50
I'd call them full contact twists.

PikeKing
04-08-2005, 15:07
i'd call them standing twisting crunches with long arms :023: :037:

Robert
04-08-2005, 15:09
I'd call them gay.



:ninja:

Scourge
04-08-2005, 16:20
I'd call them gay.



:ninja:
Hush you, hernia boy.

Scourge
05-08-2005, 23:33
05/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 4x75, 4x80, 4x85, 4x80, 4x75
Curls (B2) - 5x10, 5x30, 5x40, 2x5x35
Inverted Sit-ups - 3x5xbw

New 4RM. Down to triples next week. Feeling a bit tired/run down today so I'll likely take next week a bit easier.

My curling sucks.

666
05-08-2005, 23:42
85x4 - quality pressing. You must be so close now!

uk machine
06-08-2005, 12:07
damn, i challenged you to an ohp race and your gonna hand my arse to me on a plate.great pressing

Scourge
06-08-2005, 14:47
Thanks gents.

ukm - You better get your ass in gear: Icepick and Big AL are on a roll as well.

Scourge
09-08-2005, 09:16
08/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 1x75, 3x80, 3x85, 3x87.5, 3x80
Isometric whatchamacallit - 3x50, 3x60, 4x3x70
Chins 3x5xbw

Perenially exhausted. 100kg will fall once I get some sleep.

The isometric thigummies were a regular OHP with the safeties placed above the bar, so had push against the bar plus 100+kg of powercage once the bar reached about eye-height.

PikeKing
09-08-2005, 09:30
The isometric thigummies were a regular OHP with the safeties placed above the bar, so had push against the bar plus 100+kg of powercage once the bar reached about eye-height.


cool! that your sticking point then?

Scourge
09-08-2005, 09:49
cool! that your sticking point then?
Around about there. I'd prefer to do them a little bit higher really but the safeties were in the top hole already (cheap powercage).

I think I might be able to work something out with chains to make it easy to accurately manipulate the stopping point.

Scourge
10-08-2005, 23:29
10/08/05

OHP (B1) - 5x20, 3x40, 3x60 (DE>) 6x3x62.5
Curls (B1) - 5x20, 5x30, 2x5x40
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

Easy day today. OHP was slower than it should be, possibly cause I'm using my oly bar again. I keep thinking it'll be easier than the 2" bar and switching back to it occasionally, when I should be remembering why I stopped using it in the first place (it's bent).

Forearm's giving me gyp, so curls were probably not the best idea. I think it's an overuse kinda injury (lots of B2 OHP) but it feels OK now I've got an ice pack strapped to it.

3x90 on Friday mofos.

ice_mach
11-08-2005, 18:04
so goal almost achieved then bro?

Scourge
12-08-2005, 00:28
so goal almost achieved then bro?
Yeah, if I can string a couple of decent nights' sleep together.

666
12-08-2005, 00:39
He says, still on the internet at half past midnight... :018:

Scourge
12-08-2005, 09:10
He says, still on the internet at half past midnight... :018:
I was eating!

666
12-08-2005, 09:23
Excuses excuses...

Scourge
12-08-2005, 23:39
12/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 3x80, 3x85, 3x90, 3x80
Tricep pushdowns (light band) - 4x20

Felt shit before training but it turned out OK. First two reps on 90 were piss, but the third rep was ragged. I need to find a way of working more volume into my training at this intensity as it tends to fall apart at the higher weights.

Pushdowns. Mmmmm... Pump.

ice_mach
12-08-2005, 23:50
taken from http://www.ruggedmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9901&st=240

3-board press
2 x 5 + 45
2 x 5 + 95
1 x 5 + 135
1 x 3 + 175
1 x 3 + 205
1 x 3 + 245
1 x 1 + 285
1 x 1 + 315
1 x 1 + 355 90%
1 x 1 + 370 95%
1 x 1 + 395 101% 5lb PR
1 x 1 + 405 105% 15lb PR
2 x 1 + 385 95% of new PR
2 x 1 + 365 90% of new PR

Robert
13-08-2005, 09:22
12/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 3x80, 3x85, 3x90, 3x80
Tricep pushdowns (light band) - 4x20

Felt shit before training but it turned out OK. First two reps on 90 were piss, but the third rep was ragged. I need to find a way of working more volume into my training at this intensity as it tends to fall apart at the higher weights.

Pushdowns. Mmmmm... Pump.Do more back off volume. Not sure what you thought the point of doing a whopping 3 reps as back off was, but it's pointless really. IMO 2x5 or something with about 70 woudl ahve been better.

Scourge
13-08-2005, 12:50
Rob - Yeah figured that might be the plan.

ice_mach - Thanks. I'll have a think.

Scourge
14-08-2005, 22:10
14/08/05

DE OHP (B2/MM) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, (DE>) 3x3x60, 3x3x55
OHP (B2/MM) - 1x70, 1x75, 3x1x80, 2x1x77.5
Chins - 3x5xbw

OH work all done with bands, which sucks. Singles were done Bulgarian style. Good session in all.

Scourge
16-08-2005, 16:46
16/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 2x80, 2x85, 2x90, 2x92.5, 1x95, 1x90
Wide-Grip OHP (B2) - 4x8x50
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

Shit session. Everything was much heavier than it should have been. Been training hard recently and the missus has given me the leurgy. I've got a bit of an easy period coming up though.

Black Knight
16-08-2005, 23:00
16/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 2x80, 2x85, 2x90, 2x92.5, 1x95, 1x90
Wide-Grip OHP (B2) - 4x8x50
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

Shit session. Everything was much heavier than it should have been. Been training hard recently and the missus has given me the leurgy. I've got a bit of an easy period coming up though.
1x95 is not to be sniffed at mate :047:

Scourge
20-08-2005, 00:00
20/08/05

DE OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 3x50, 3x60 (DE>) 6x3x65
OHP (B2) - 1x70, 1x80, 1x90 (Bulg.)
Chins - 3x5xbw
Inverted Sit-Ups 3x5xbw

Got a bit of pace on the OHP for a change. Bulgarian singles a bit heavier than I'd like, but fook it - 100kg is going to fall soon whatever.

Thanks BK.

BengDogg
20-08-2005, 08:32
Man you are so close this jornal is killing me with anticipation

uk machine
20-08-2005, 17:32
yup safe to say you've won this one, i quit!good shit sir ohp!

ice_mach
20-08-2005, 17:57
Got in the bag bro, nice one

Scourge
21-08-2005, 00:51
Maybe a bit soon for the celebrations just yet, but thanks gents.

Black Knight
21-08-2005, 08:39
I think the fat lady is clearing her throat!

Scourge
22-08-2005, 15:48
Very impressive Overhead. How is that done, standing, seated?

What are you weighing?
Thanks. My OH strength was always very poor compared to my bench so I decided to do something about it.

All lifts done standing and dead strict.

Around 85kg at 5'11'' methinks.

the block
22-08-2005, 15:54
I think the fat lady is clearing her throat!

whats she gonna put down it?

come on SOGgy - we want the 100!!!

Scourge
22-08-2005, 16:03
whats she gonna put down it?

come on SOGgy - we want the 100!!!
Ooo errr...

You and me both mate. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to get a video or, if I can get one, how if I'll be able to upload it over a 56k modem with a dodgy connection.

the block
22-08-2005, 16:06
i think a pic with you standing there at lockout would be brilliant. not for authentification purposes - just for the memory, 2 big wheels each side!

Scourge
22-08-2005, 16:15
i think a pic with you standing there at lockout would be brilliant. not for authentification purposes - just for the memory, 2 big wheels each side!
How about one wheel and a shitload of shrapnel? I've been doing all my OHP on my thick bar for a while now so two wheels is actually 90kg.

the block
22-08-2005, 16:16
beggars cant be choosers! its all good and its all heavy!

Scourge
23-08-2005, 09:41
22/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 1x80, 1x90, 1x95, 1x100 (Bulg>) 1x90, 5x1x85
Chins - 3x5xbw

The 100 wasn't strict before y'all get excited. Tried it strict and failed, reracked the bar, took a deep breath, unracked it and buried it easily with a bit of leg drive. 90 felt like nothing. 95 was light but a wobble as the bar hit my mini-max made the lift harder than it should have been.

Nearly there.

Fred
23-08-2005, 09:56
i'm dissapointed :021:

cooooooooomon its soooooo close :kinky:

Tricky
23-08-2005, 10:34
come on come on come on !

Narc
23-08-2005, 12:18
argh

Scourge
24-08-2005, 22:06
Quit your whining. :028:

24/08/05

DE OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 3x50, 3x60 (DE>) 6x3x65
Chins - 3x5xbw
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

A bit beat up from Monday but still battling on. That said, pace was still pretty good. I've got a bit of a twitch in my right forearm atm when pressing - Not painful but if feels damn wierd.

Scourge
26-08-2005, 23:16
26/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 1x80, 1x85, 5x1x90, 4x1x87.5, 1x85
Landmines - 5xbar, 5x5, 5x7.5, 2x5x10

Bit of a lighter session today. All singles Bulgarian-stylee with a decent pause after the walkout.

PikeKing
26-08-2005, 23:18
you must have some meaty delts now?

Scourge
26-08-2005, 23:23
you must have some meaty delts now?
Yeah. Put on about 8kg since the start of this cycle. A lot of that's gone on my delts and my tris, although I've mysteriously gained a load of stretch marks on my butt and my upper legs as well. Gained some fat as well though - I'll worry about that once I've put up the 100.

Scourge
29-08-2005, 23:53
29/08/05

Chins - 5xbw, 5x5, 2x5x7.5, 5x5
OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x30, 1x50, 1x60, 1x70, 1x80, 1x85, 1x90

Short session today. Still feel a bit beat up from Friday, been eating badly over the last 2-3 days and my back's giving me a bit o' gyp, so not really much to be had from going heavy. OHP was all done at pace - No rest, no psyche-up, just press-rack-load-repeat.

BengDogg
30-08-2005, 08:19
Ian have you weighed your bar, i am told by my mate some of them are 12kg, youurs could be one of them

Scourge
30-08-2005, 09:08
Ian have you weighed your bar, i am told by my mate some of them are 12kg, youurs could be one of them
That would be nice, wouldn't it? I'll see if I can check it. I don't have an accurate pair on scales around, but I'll work out something.

Scourge
31-08-2005, 22:56
31/08/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x50, 1x60, 1x70, 3x1x80
Inverted Sit-Ups - 3x5xbw

Very easy session today. Back feeling better, but I'm feeling out of sorts and kinda fragile in the gym. Dunno why. Feels like I've lost loads of weight, except I haven't.

Scourge
03-09-2005, 00:05
02/09/05

OHP (B2) - 5x10, 3x50, 1x65, 1x75, 1x85, 1x92.5
Rows (B2) - 5x50, 3x5x70

Shit session. Weak. I seem to have stagnated over the last two weeks. Time for a new routine methinks.